China's ambassador threatened Faroese prime minister to sign Huawei 5G deal

Re:China's ambassador threatened Faroese prime minister to s... by bigpumpkin on Tuesday December 10, 2019 @05:22PM (#21757526)

"Berlingske has learnt that Ambassador Feng Tie made it clear in two meetings on 11 November - first with the Faroese foreign minister, Jenis av Rana, and later the same day with the Faroese finance minister, Jørgen Niclasen, and the islands' lagmand, or prime minister, Bárður Nielsen – that if the Faroese telecoms operator Føroya Tele agreed to let Huawei build the 5G network, all doors would be open to a free trade agreement between China and the Faroese Islands.

He also stated that China would not enter into such a trade agreement if Huawei did not get the contract. According to Berlingske's information, the Chinese ambassador is said to have been »very forceful« in his statements to the Faroese top officials."

So is there currently a Free Trade Agreement between China and the Faroes?

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Re:China's ambassador threatened Faroese prime minister to s... by Svip on Tuesday December 10, 2019 @05:33PM (#21757613)

There is not currently a Free Trade Agreement between China and the Faroese Islands. But the Faroese Islands and Greenland have been hoping for a free trade agreement with China each, outside of one Denmark proper may have with China through the EU. (Note: Neither Greenland nor the Faroese Islands are part of the EU.)

Although it is possible, that the Faroese and the Greenlandic may consider the value of the Kingdom of Denmark that they are part of more valuable in face of being pressured. China pressuring the Faroese, the US considering purchasing Greenland. Both partly the result of a Kingdom of Denmark being run on autopilot by successive Danish governments. I'd imagine both getting extra attention in Copenhagen the coming decade.

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Re:China's ambassador threatened Faroese prime minister to s... by GordonS on Tuesday December 10, 2019 @06:15PM (#21757886)

A little OT, but I'm surprised the Faroese Islands and Greenland economies would be big enough for China to care a jot - what am I missing?

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Re:China's ambassador threatened Faroese prime minister to s... by Svip on Tuesday December 10, 2019 @06:26PM (#21757955)

Someone may be able to correct me on this, or fill in the details, but part of China's larger Belt and Road Initiative, which is presented as investments into smaller countries, is to ensure non-aligned countries (in a manner of speaking) are beholden to China.

China builds you a new airport, and suddenly you are indebted to them for decades.

As for the Faroese Islands, and in particular Greenland, they don't care so much about their economies. What they care about is their proximity to the Arctic ocean, and its potential riches. Having a foot in the door, would be a huge boon for China. Indeed, the notion of China building oil rigs and mines in Greenland has been a subject debated a lot in Denmark.

Pressuring the Faroese may be a good way to make Greenland follow suit. But there I am merely speculating. Besides, the Faroese are the ones making overtures to China, so China can counter with demands like this at no expense to themselves.

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Re:China's ambassador threatened Faroese prime minister to s... by yorwba on Tuesday December 10, 2019 @06:45PM (#21758076)

> part of China's larger Belt and Road Initiative, which is presented as investments into smaller countries, is to ensure non-aligned countries (in a manner of speaking) are beholden to China.

Not really. The most prominent case where that happened is a shiny new port they built in Sri Lanka, but which turned out to be impossible to run profitably, so the Sri Lankan government handed them the port for a 99-year lease instead of paying their debt. Now China has a port in Sri Lanka they can't run profitably either.

What the BRI is is a great opportunity for Chinese officials to earn kickbacks from Chinese companies for helping them land government contracts abroad. I assume that's what happened here: someone working for Huawei really wanted to close this deal and receive a fat bonus, so they offered the ambassador a cut for intervening on his behalf.

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Re:China's ambassador threatened Faroese prime minister to s... by paperskull on Wednesday December 11, 2019 @04:23AM (#21760890)

While this is true from an economic perspective many argue that the true value of the Sri Lankan deep water port is that it allows the Chinese military (officially this is for hunting pirates) a foothold in the Indian ocean, similar to how the US can project its power far outside its border through the use of military bases around the world. Hence it isn't a major concern how profitable the port is, or so the thinking goes.

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Re:China's ambassador threatened Faroese prime minister to s... by yorwba on Wednesday December 11, 2019 @06:43AM (#21761580)

Building and leasing an oversized commercial port is a kind of expensive plan if all they wanted was a naval base. Last I heard, the Sri Lankan government expressly forbade China from using the port for military purposes and instead moved their own base there: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-sri-lanka-china-port/sri-...

So whether the primary aim was economic or military doesn't matter much, since the outcome was an expensive failure either way.

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Re:China's ambassador threatened Faroese prime minister to s... by threeseed on Tuesday December 10, 2019 @06:36PM (#21758028)

> US considering purchasing Greenland

Trump considered this.

US and Danish governments were not seriously engaged to look at the possibility of such a purchase.

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Re:China's ambassador threatened Faroese prime minister to s... by mc32 on Tuesday December 10, 2019 @06:23PM (#21757940)

I would accept that threat!

There’s nothing good in a FTA with China for a small government. They’ll get eaten alive, economically speaking.

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Re:China's ambassador threatened Faroese prime minister to s... by haecceity on Tuesday December 10, 2019 @06:19PM (#21757906)

That's a pretty mild threat.

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