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Re:Facebook Tells Barr It Won’t Open Up Encrypted Messages by excalibur on Tuesday December 10, 2019 @10:54AM (#21753565)
They have in a manner of speaking. The communication channel is still encrypted, they just run their surveillance algorithms directly on your device.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kalevleetaru/2019/05/05/faceboo...

Re:Facebook Tells Barr It Won’t Open Up Encrypted Messages by throwaway824721 on Tuesday December 10, 2019 @11:04AM (#21753711)
That Forbes article was wrong: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20587643
Re:Facebook Tells Barr It Won’t Open Up Encrypted Messages by driminicus on Tuesday December 10, 2019 @11:34AM (#21753992)
Facebook says in a hn post that the article is wrong, but I have no real reason to trust Facebook, given their track record.
Re:Facebook Tells Barr It Won’t Open Up Encrypted Messages by mentat on Tuesday December 10, 2019 @11:40AM (#21754048)
> if we ever did it would be quite obvious and detectable that we had done it.

It's running in your device, you don't have to trust them if you have technical skill.

Re:Facebook Tells Barr It Won’t Open Up Encrypted Messages by driminicus on Tuesday December 10, 2019 @02:49PM (#21756151)
I have little desire to decompile every update and/or constantly analyse what their app is doing. They've proven to be untrustworthy on multiple occasions, and haven't given me much reason to think they've changed.

They might convince me if they open their client and server code, but even then they're yet another walled garden only interested in keeping their monopoly by building inferior products and using regularly capture to prevent any competition from doing the same thing they did to MySpace.

Re:Facebook Tells Barr It Won’t Open Up Encrypted Messages by bduerst on Tuesday December 10, 2019 @05:05PM (#21757366)
You can't read encrypted packages being sent by the app. The message telemetry could be bundled by the app with other telemetry and you wouldn't know despite your technical skill.
Re:Facebook Tells Barr It Won’t Open Up Encrypted Messages by SilasX on Tuesday December 10, 2019 @04:01PM (#21756817)
I don't consider a self-serving assurance from a company representative to be conclusive proof.
Re:Facebook Tells Barr It Won’t Open Up Encrypted Messages by badrequest on Tuesday December 10, 2019 @12:22PM (#21754491)
only if you choose to believe Facebook it was