News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Verizon/Yahoo Blocking Attempts to Archive Yahoo Groups –... by umeshunni on Sunday December 08, 2019 @03:58PM (#21738269)
I'm confused why Archive.org is attempting to archive and expose to the public what is essentially private communications?

My usage of Yahoo groups in the early 2000s was mostly to communicate with my high school / college / dorm groups and the last thing I want is for embarrassing messages from 20 years ago sent to a private group to be archived.

Re:Verizon/Yahoo Blocking Attempts to Archive Yahoo Groups –... by betamaxthetape on Sunday December 08, 2019 @04:45PM (#21738580)
Clarification - we're not archive.org. Archive Team and Internet Archive are completely separate.

And we're only archiving things that "any guy on the internet" can see. If someone can access the messages simply by joining a group (with no moderator approval), I'd argue it's fair game.

We're not going to be unreasonable, though. If something private slips through and we receive a takedown request from the author, we typically remove it.

Re:Verizon/Yahoo Blocking Attempts to Archive Yahoo Groups –... by dependenttypes on Sunday December 08, 2019 @05:47PM (#21738967)
Just wondering, if the author of a post or the administrator of a group makes a takedown request regarding non-private* info, would you delete it?

* and by that I mean something that is not a telephone number, an address, a real life name, and other similar things.

Re:Verizon/Yahoo Blocking Attempts to Archive Yahoo Groups –... by dependenttypes on Sunday December 08, 2019 @06:03PM (#21739057)
Also, I am looking at https://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Mastodon and some jobs there (such as berries.space) give 404 when I try to download the data. Do you have any idea why that could be?
Re:Verizon/Yahoo Blocking Attempts to Archive Yahoo Groups –... by Diagon on Sunday December 08, 2019 @05:02PM (#21738676)
But the data will be going to Archive.org, correct?
Re:Verizon/Yahoo Blocking Attempts to Archive Yahoo Groups –... by PopeRigby on Sunday December 08, 2019 @08:54PM (#21739846)
Yep. That's where they upload everything.
Re:Verizon/Yahoo Blocking Attempts to Archive Yahoo Groups –... by Diagon on Sunday December 08, 2019 @04:03PM (#21738295)
Many groups are public. Many have owners that requested the group be archived.
Re:Verizon/Yahoo Blocking Attempts to Archive Yahoo Groups –... by saagarjha on Sunday December 08, 2019 @04:01PM (#21738283)
Yahoo Groups can be configured to allow public access.
Re:Verizon/Yahoo Blocking Attempts to Archive Yahoo Groups –... by rahuldottech on Sunday December 08, 2019 @04:04PM (#21738303)
They are only archiving data on publicly accessible groups - many of which contain lots of discussions worth archiving.
Re:Verizon/Yahoo Blocking Attempts to Archive Yahoo Groups –... by dependenttypes on Sunday December 08, 2019 @05:52PM (#21739004)
> what is essentially private communications

If they have access to it, it is not private.