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Re:The Great Cannon has been deployed again by jefftk on Friday December 06, 2019 @10:38AM (#21722697)
This is not a good counterexample: the attacker is only able to do this because the analytics scripts are being served over HTTP. If you include the analytics on your site over HTTPS this sort of attack is not relevant.
Re:The Great Cannon has been deployed again by mminer237 on Friday December 06, 2019 @10:42AM (#21722736)
The Chinese government has the root certificates for every Chinese certificate authority. It can MITM traffic for any citizen, even over HTTPS.
Re:The Great Cannon has been deployed again by jefftk on Friday December 06, 2019 @10:53AM (#21722847)
What makes this attack powerful is not that sites within China can be shut down (the government can already do that) but that sites outside of China can be tricked into DDOSing other sites outside of China. Which is why this attack only works over HTTP.
Re:The Great Cannon has been deployed again by saagarjha on Friday December 06, 2019 @12:23PM (#21723928)
Right, but the traffic is coming from users in China is past the point that HTTPS would help. The requests are already in flight from people in China who've been served malicious JavaScript.
Re:The Great Cannon has been deployed again by mminer237 on Friday December 06, 2019 @01:09PM (#21724430)
What I mean is that China can just force a CA to give the CPC its root certificate and then just intercept and edit any HTTPS responses to Chinese citizens and resign them as secure.
Re:The Great Cannon has been deployed again by inimino on Friday December 06, 2019 @06:43PM (#21727243)
It would work just as well over HTTPS, they would just have to make a different phone call (to the site hosting the script rather than to the GFW).
Re:The Great Cannon has been deployed again by ninkendo on Friday December 06, 2019 @10:40AM (#21722722)
I imagine China has quite a bit of infrastructure to push their own CA's onto devices in china, enough to do any MITM'ing they want.
Re:The Great Cannon has been deployed again by pavel_lishin on Friday December 06, 2019 @11:31AM (#21723315)
For _this_ particular example, yes. But ad networks aren't magically immune from other types of attacks.