Re:Battery Pack Prices Fall As Market Ramps Up
by retrovm on Thursday December 05, 2019 @06:51PM
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Well, estimates I can google up at the moment put the Pb-acid worldwide market at ~$42bn/year and the Li-ion market at ~$40bn/year. The latter is growing much faster but the former is also growing.
Re:Battery Pack Prices Fall As Market Ramps Up
by jartelt on Thursday December 05, 2019 @07:02PM
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Lead acid batteries are used in pretty much everything ICE vehicle and are used in large quantities as uninterruptible power supplies (data centers use a ton). It's a huge industry.
Re:Battery Pack Prices Fall As Market Ramps Up
by slfnflctd on Thursday December 05, 2019 @07:39PM
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They're cheap, simple (don't require a complex BMS), predictable/safe, have a long-enough lifetime and are easy to recycle. The biggest drawback really is weight - and thereby shipping cost - but for long term stationary applications that doesn't matter.
Lithium Ion attached to a supercapacitor with a sophisticated BMS is a much more complex setup-- yet even so, it will probably end up being the gold standard in the long run at this point, I would say even in most places lead-acid is still being used. I would not have predicted anything like that even five years ago, but barring some unlikely breakthrough it seems like where we're headed.
Re:Battery Pack Prices Fall As Market Ramps Up
by oceanplexian on Thursday December 05, 2019 @10:26PM
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Honestly it’s just market inefficiencies at this point. I build battery packs for drones and RC planes and the lead acid stuff is just garbage. They can’t perform to more than 60% of their rated capacity and then start voltage sagging. The energy density is pitiful. A small UPS under your desk with LiFePo4 cells would outperform the lead acid 3-4x for the same space and last longer for the same or less money.
Re:Battery Pack Prices Fall As Market Ramps Up
by 9HZZRfNlpR on Friday December 06, 2019 @04:17AM
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The majority of the are designed for massive amounts of current for short period of time?
Re:Battery Pack Prices Fall As Market Ramps Up
by ksec on Friday December 06, 2019 @05:38PM
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Considering we ship 1.2B Smartphone, 300M Tablet, 150M Laptop, 100sM of IOT Gadget, along with Electric Cars and Buses. I am very much surprised Lead Acid Battery has a higher market revenue. Apart from ICE vehicle ( Which I dont buy every year ) I dont have any Lead Acid Battery around me.
Re:Battery Pack Prices Fall As Market Ramps Up
by fortran77 on Thursday December 05, 2019 @08:05PM
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UPS and battery backup for things like Alarms and Phone Systems use Gel Cells or AGM batteries which are in the sealed lead-acid family. You probably have more "lead acid" batteries than you think.
I've got dozens of Li-ion batteries in my house and only two lead-acid. One in my truck and one I use as a backup power supply for my radio equipment.