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Re:Drivers Refuse to Put Down Their Phones. People Keep Dying by btrettel on Thursday December 05, 2019 @06:25PM (#21717787)
> In general, drivers act with the knowledge that if they even tap a pedestrian, they're likely to severely injure or kill them. They might be sloppy or distracted, but they almost never willfully do this.

In my experience as a cyclist and pedestrian, many drivers don't seem to act with the knowledge that if they even tap a pedestrian or cyclist that they'll severely injure or kill them. Many drivers do similar things to what you describe cyclists as doing. Ultimately the percentage of jerks among drivers, cyclists, and pedestrians is about the same.

> (P.S. Have you really seen a bicyclist getting a ticket in NYC? Never seen that in my life. Wow!)

Isn't NYC famous for ticketing cyclists? E.g., for not riding in the bike lane? (Which isn't illegal by the way.) I don't know specifically about the claim previously made but it seems plausible to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzE-IMaegzQ

I live in Austin and as a cyclist I've gone through bike stop sign enforcement twice (getting a ticket neither time). My guess is that the same thing happens regularly in NYC, but you're not paying attention for such things.

Re:Drivers Refuse to Put Down Their Phones. People Keep Dying by downerending on Thursday December 05, 2019 @06:46PM (#21717938)
Lived in NYC for about four years and never saw a cyclist being ticketed or even stopped. Even that guy that killed a pedestrian in Central Park wasn't ticketed, AFAIK.

Only saw maybe four drivers get tickets, though, and two looked more like some dispute about taxi regulations than actual moving violations.

I will say that NYC bicyclists are far more law-abiding and respectful than my current "bike-friendly" city. (Never thought I'd type those words...)