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Re:We ran the numbers, and there really is a pipeline proble... by ergfdgs on Tuesday December 03, 2019 @02:06PM (#21695468)
As a fellow Latin American, I find "LatinX" offensive.

English already has a gender neutral adjective to refer to us, Latin, and therefore Latin American.

LatinX means you've internalized the colonialization of white "liberals" [0] who would refer to us as Latinos or Latinas while speaking English to show off their poor Spanish and therefore pretend to be sophisticated and woke.

[0] I don't consider liberal bad or good, just that the people who use latino/a/X seem to self-identify as liberals.

Re:We ran the numbers, and there really is a pipeline proble... by sbilstein on Tuesday December 03, 2019 @02:33PM (#21695786)
I too hate the term LatinX but it's become the preferred term around so many I know that I'd rather just conform than argue about it. Just cause I used it doesn't mean I endorse it.
Re:We ran the numbers, and there really is a pipeline proble... by ergfdgs on Tuesday December 03, 2019 @03:01PM (#21696103)
I upvoted your reply to my "Impose yourself" comment. Specifically the "Choose my battles".

I get it. I live in the mid-West. Most people haven't heard the neologism. My parents (well educated, sophisticated people) certainly hadn't.

SV is different.

But culturally where I live doesn't matter. We accept the culture. If SV adopts LatinX, then all Latin Americans will have to adopt it.

Imagine being referred to be a noun that you hate! (well you're a visible minority, so I guess you're more aware of this than I).

We despise -nX. I'm willing to adopt your "Latines" as a compromise. But I'll die refusing to use that X ("X" is dehumanizing, as if we're a mere unknown in an eq.)

Re:We ran the numbers, and there really is a pipeline proble... by sbilstein on Tuesday December 03, 2019 @03:20PM (#21696274)
lol I just moved to NYC and you bet I’m not gonna say LatinX in a fucking bodega. When in Rome.
Re:We ran the numbers, and there really is a pipeline proble... by ergfdgs on Tuesday December 03, 2019 @02:49PM (#21695968)
You're Latin American! Impose the right terminology!

This is cultural colonialism from the, typically WASP, urban elite. Who possibly finds Spanish's gendered pronouns annoying? How many are them are native Spanish speakers? And yet they feel slighted and therefore try to impose their (typically poor) Spanish on us!

They ignore that, technically, Spanish has three genders (the neutral which is almost, but not completely, withered away; see "esto/este/esta"). So, even in Spanish, "Latin" would be a far more correct gender neutral form.

They ignore that objects can have multiple genders according to the synonyms used to refer to them.

They ignore that linguistic "gender" has little to do with gender, the term appears to have been coined by Aristotle to refer to sets of nouns, which largely follow gender when applied to people.

Why are on Earth are we accepting of unpronounceable adjectives and nouns (the -nX soup of constants being especially unpronounceable for us native Spanish speakers!)

Re:We ran the numbers, and there really is a pipeline proble... by sbilstein on Tuesday December 03, 2019 @02:56PM (#21696048)
For real, I've looked into this and in LatAm some people prefer Latines as the neutral collective noun. I like that myself cause I'm down with gender neutrality but everyone thinks it's a fucking typo so I give up.

Outside of the Bay Area tech scene, I can't imagine I would ever use LatinX in Spanish conversation. I choose my battles.

Re:We ran the numbers, and there really is a pipeline proble... by TurkishPoptart on Tuesday December 03, 2019 @04:29PM (#21696927)
I don't understand what's wrong with the terms "Latino", "Latina", and "Hispanic". These are _Spanish_ words, and we're speaking English, so it doesn't make much sense to invent new words just to appease the tiny activist trans community on Twitter.
Re:We ran the numbers, and there really is a pipeline proble... by homonculus1 on Tuesday December 03, 2019 @02:13PM (#21695560)
That only just occurred to me as I was reading OP's comment. The construction of "LatinX" has always bothered me for how contrived and nonstandard it is, but I think what's really been getting under my skin is that it's entirely superfluous. The meaning is entirely legitimate but since the word for it already exists I can't see any purpose for such a weird new one other than signaling woke group affiliation.
Re:We ran the numbers, and there really is a pipeline proble... by ergfdgs on Tuesday December 03, 2019 @02:15PM (#21695583)
I read a recent poll that 90% of Latin Americans don't like the term.
Re:We ran the numbers, and there really is a pipeline proble... by lordgrenville on Tuesday December 03, 2019 @02:45PM (#21695913)
The poll is here [0]. It was discussed recently in an NYT oped here [1]. It was an interesting result that definitely altered my opinion.

[0] https://medium.com/@ThinkNowTweets/progressive-latino-pollst...

[1] https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/05/opinion/latinix-warren-de...

Re:We ran the numbers, and there really is a pipeline proble... by lovehashbrowns on Tuesday December 03, 2019 @04:26PM (#21696885)
Wait, that question is awful. As a Hispanic person, I would also put "Hispanic" but that doesn't put into context why. If someone sees me, reads my name, and uses that to refer to me as Latinx, I wouldn't be offended at all, and would prefer Latinx over something like Hispanic.
Re:We ran the numbers, and there really is a pipeline proble... by burfog on Tuesday December 03, 2019 @03:07PM (#21696157)
Oh yes. Hispanic is the correct term when speaking English.

Latinx is a sign of wanting to show off Spanish (to virtue signal) but actually being intolerant of the way the language works. Values collided, and thus Latinx was born. Using the correct term, Hispanic, just wasn't an option.

Re:We ran the numbers, and there really is a pipeline proble... by gusmd on Tuesday December 03, 2019 @03:52PM (#21696581)
As a Brazilian Latin American, there's nothing Hispanic about me or my people. Most of us are some mixture of European (primarily Italian or Portuguese), African, indian (as in the native people of South America) descendents. Our official language is Portuguese.
Re:We ran the numbers, and there really is a pipeline proble... by burfog on Wednesday December 04, 2019 @01:08AM (#21699992)
So you're Brazilian.

Latinx, Latino, Latina are not normally used for all Latin-based languages. Italians and French don't qualify either, despite being Latin-based. (Quebec???) It's also not race; the Cherokee do not qualify even if of mixed ancestry. Really it is just a synonym for Hispanic.