Oxide Computer Company: Initial boot sequence

Re:Oxide Computer Company: Initial boot sequence by _pius on Monday December 02, 2019 @01:44PM (#21685383)

”I've read all of the founders' blog posts now and I'm convinced they've packed every anti-pattern they could find into this startup .... they [list their values] ... yet there’s essentially nothing about what the product is.”

Imagine you and your friends excitedly announcing on your personal homepages that you are setting out to build your passion project into a going concern “not driven by power or greed, but by accomplishment and self-fulfillment” [1] and being flooded in a community of supposed hackers with derision that your post wasn’t a good enough press release.

For some people, the actual human excitement of friends earnestly getting together to build something new primarily because they want to see it in the world is so foreign that they can only snark about it.

Hopefully that kind of response vindicates their values more than it demoralizes.

[1]: https://blog.jessfraz.com/post/new-golden-age-of-building-wi...

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Re:Oxide Computer Company: Initial boot sequence by malvosenior on Monday December 02, 2019 @01:50PM (#21685454)

Vaporware has been looked down upon in our industry for decades:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware

Until you have a product, there's nothing to talk about. Plenty of teams that seem good end up producing nothing. Announcements like this are a huge red flag to people who have seen this pattern many times over.

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Re:Oxide Computer Company: Initial boot sequence by _pius on Monday December 02, 2019 @01:52PM (#21685481)

Until you have a product, there's nothing to talk about.

Yeah ... if you’re a marketer. People who actually make stuff are allowed to be excited about what they‘ve been working on in their garages and get to tell people more about it on their own schedules. They don’t owe you a feature comparison table every time they talk about their project.

In fact, they don’t owe you anything at all.

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Re:Oxide Computer Company: Initial boot sequence by _pius on Monday December 02, 2019 @01:57PM (#21685554)

As this announcement stands, I ... won't be using what they build.

Considering you literally haven’t been told — let alone allowed to use — what they’ve built, that sounds like a reasonable prior.

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Re:Oxide Computer Company: Initial boot sequence by malvosenior on Monday December 02, 2019 @02:03PM (#21685617)

When I use products for business I expect some level of professionalism. It's way too easy to get hung out to dry with a critical piece of infrastructure and a dead company behind it. What they've done here with the vaporware and vanity posts is a classic misstep. It's not product or customer centered, the two things you absolutely must be to succeed in the enterprise world.

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Re:Oxide Computer Company: Initial boot sequence by malvosenior on Monday December 02, 2019 @02:19PM (#21685794)

This is literally the company blog that we're commenting on, not their personal blog. There's also 3 posts on the HN front page about this same topic and not one of them has any substance. So yes, I'm going to stick with my decades of experience and say they're producing red flags far faster than they're producing product.

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Re:Oxide Computer Company: Initial boot sequence by jiofih on Monday December 02, 2019 @02:26PM (#21685871)

I’m sure your indignation can be better used somewhere else, other than commenting at length on something you’re not interested at all.

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Re:Oxide Computer Company: Initial boot sequence by malvosenior on Monday December 02, 2019 @02:32PM (#21685933)

I'm very interested in how our industry operates, how purchasing decisions are made and how investors vet opportunities. This intersects all of those areas, I think it's probably worth listening to what people are complaining about instead of just lashing out at them. This isn't just me complaining for no reason, there's a lot wrong with this announcement and it doesn't lead to a healthy industry.

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