Re:Microsoft’s Bing uses Google search results—and denies it
by Getahobby on Tuesday February 01, 2011 @08:54PM
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Wait a second. Can't let you completely get away with the MS stealing UI from Apple comment when SJobs stole it from Xerox/PARC first. Although to be fair he does readily admit the thievery.
Re:Microsoft’s Bing uses Google search results—and denies it
by dreyfiz on Tuesday February 01, 2011 @11:18PM
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No "thievery" was involved, he licensed it in exchange for access to pre-IPO Apple stock.
Re:Microsoft’s Bing uses Google search results—and denies it
by Getahobby on Tuesday February 01, 2011 @11:27PM
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I didn't mean thievery in the classic sense. Only in the sense that he/AAPL didn't come up with the innovation of the GUI as the parent was suggesting.
Re:Microsoft’s Bing uses Google search results—and denies it
by joe_the_user on Wednesday February 02, 2011 @12:56AM
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Hmm,
How would you explain Xerox suing Apple over this?
http://www.nytimes.com/1989/12/15/business/company-news-xero...
I can't find a mention of Apple licensing anything in the wikipedia article either:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Computer,_Inc._v._Microso...
Also this claims to debunk the story: http://books.google.pl/books?id=gzAEAAAAMBAJ&lpg=PA3&...
"Xerox did at one time owne stock in Apple, they were purchased as an investment"
(All this followed from the Wikipedia page, I'll admit)
Re:Microsoft’s Bing uses Google search results—and denies it
by dreyfiz on Wednesday February 02, 2011 @03:51AM
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Hmm, it looks like you're right—it's just a legend. Thanks, I stand corrected.
Re:Microsoft’s Bing uses Google search results—and denies it
by city41 on Tuesday February 01, 2011 @08:53PM
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Yes but when Microsoft took on Apple back in the day, they were young, agile and relevant. The same is much harder to say of the MS of today. They aren't winning very often anymore, especially in the consumer space. And I say this as a Microsoft alum and really enjoyed my time at the company.
Re:Microsoft’s Bing uses Google search results—and denies it
by scorpion032 on Wednesday February 02, 2011 @08:32AM
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> Yes, but historically this is how Microsoft wins.
What is Google made up of? The then MSFTs are now at Google.
Re:Microsoft’s Bing uses Google search results—and denies it
by commanda on Wednesday February 02, 2011 @12:17AM
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This isn't a case of "copying" though. That would entail reverse engineering an existing product, which Bing is (according to this post) not doing. They are instead importing the search results themselves from Google.com.
They win by entering the dialogue. They copied UI from Apple back in the day, and then were able to cut prices, etc., and Apple lost (at least for a decade).
I would caution Google to ignore the controversy completely and move on to more interesting problems in search. Microsoft is very good at playing this game increasingly on their terms, and then they win.
ETA. As a quick caveat. I have nothing but respect for many Microsoft employees. And I don't mean to generalize. I just can't help but remember the similarities to:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Computer,_Inc._v._Microso...
Being 'right' is sometimes a premature optimization....
ETA2. Esp. with someone who is very good at making the second dance move. But think back on all the major Microsoft products (IE v. Netscape, Office v. Lotus, though this is a reach maybe, Xbox v. PS, .NET v. Java, etc.). It's just a different approach. But it's a mistake to not analyze it and appreciate it for what it is..