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Re:I was a drug rep and know how pharma companies pushed opi... by dominotw on Sunday December 01, 2019 @07:00PM (#21678698)
> nobody is suggesting that opiods shouldn't be used to treat pain, are they?

Literally everyone is suggesting this. Not sure if you had any surgeries/medical producers these days. You will now get prescription strength ibuprofin or something like that instead of opioids.

My father in law spent one month straight of sleeping < 1 hr /night due to post op pain but the doc refused to prescribe opioids.

So yes, lots of people are suggesting not using opioids for pain. Perhaps you are using a different/extreme definition of pain in your sentence.

Re:I was a drug rep and know how pharma companies pushed opi... by Supermancho on Sunday December 01, 2019 @08:22PM (#21679148)
> You will now get prescription strength ibuprofin or something like that instead of opioids.

That is incorrect. "You will" is not the same as "You are more likely to". They still give intraveneous delotin when your appendix bursts or your gall bladder duct is blocked in the short term. It should come as no surprise, that major medical surgery (eg some pain from open heart surgery), is not mitigated by ibuprofin and the like.

Re:I was a drug rep and know how pharma companies pushed opi... by dominotw on Monday December 02, 2019 @09:03AM (#21682333)
> That is incorrect. "You will" is not the same as "You are more likely to".

Yes you are right. That's what i meant. thank you.