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Re:The next generation of wall chargers by dpeck on Sunday December 01, 2019 @05:07PM (#21678124)
The UK plug design is generally regarded as the best of the standard ones https://www.fastcompany.com/3032807/why-england-has-the-best...

From my experience with some amount of traveling, I would agree that its very nice to use in practice and definitely got a lot of things right.

Re:The next generation of wall chargers by amluto on Sunday December 01, 2019 @07:04PM (#21678717)
To me that reads like an article written by someone trying really hard to defend the U.K. electrical system. UK receptacles and plugs have complex safety features mostly because the UK electrical system is awful. The UK (historically at least) used ring circuits that are fused too high such that an inappropriate resistive load that will not blow the fuse can still overheat the wiring. Hence more fuses than should be needed to partially mitigate the problem.

Modern US receptacles are “tamper resistant” and are required by code in places that kids can get to, and they have similar safety shutters. Unfortunately, many of them, especially the cheaper ones, suck and actively eject plugs.

The lack of insulation on US plugs to prevent shock when plugging and unplugging is a fair criticism. I suspect this is mostly because US prongs are thin and could become too weak if the metal were narrowed to make room for insulation.

Re:The next generation of wall chargers by noir_lord on Sunday December 01, 2019 @05:53PM (#21678358)
Til you step on one face up at 3am when heading to the loo.

Anyone who thinks the English are a reserved polite people has never seen one step on the surprise plug.

Re:The next generation of wall chargers by sagichmal on Sunday December 01, 2019 @06:57PM (#21678672)
??? The UK plug is gargantuan and unwieldy, and the inbuilt fuse a pointless anachronism grandfathered in via historical momentum. The Euro plug is better in every way.
Re:The next generation of wall chargers by Camillo on Sunday December 01, 2019 @09:36PM (#21679434)
I don't get why this person is being downvoted. He's right. There is such a thing as overengineering, and the UK plug is the poster child.
Re:The next generation of wall chargers by _Microft on Sunday December 01, 2019 @05:17PM (#21678178)
Did I understand correctly that outlets contain a switch and are off by default and that the grounding pin switches them on when inserting the plug? That's great.
Re:The next generation of wall chargers by epanchin on Sunday December 01, 2019 @05:30PM (#21678239)
Not an electrical switch. The outlets contain a physical gate over live and neutral that is pushed open by the longer earth pin.
Re:The next generation of wall chargers by dmurray on Sunday December 01, 2019 @05:53PM (#21678361)
Which means you can use a European plug in a UK socket, if you first put something in the earth slot (a key works well).

European travellers are generally impressed when I show them this trick, and sometimes rightly concerned that I'm sticking metal objects into a power outlet. If there's any chance the outlet is wired incorrectly, don't do this unless you can isolate the outlet or the key.

Re:The next generation of wall chargers by rwmj on Monday December 02, 2019 @06:48AM (#21681632)
Yeah I wouldn't rely on things being wired correctly. When I moved into my current UK house the neutral and earth were physically connected (someone had driven a nail through a cable and "got lucky"). Took a while to find the nail and fix that.
Re:The next generation of wall chargers by Symbiote on Monday December 02, 2019 @07:14AM (#21681740)
Please don't demonstrate this to anyone. It's very difficult to do without damaging the socket.

(Source: frequent socket replacements at a British university.)

Re:The next generation of wall chargers by throwaway2048 on Sunday December 01, 2019 @05:26PM (#21678215)
The grounding pin also makes electrical contact first, and plugs have a built in fuse as well.
Re:The next generation of wall chargers by stereo on Monday December 02, 2019 @08:54AM (#21682278)
You've never stepped on an UK plug at night, have you?