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Re:The successor of SMS has already been hacked by srgpqt on Saturday November 30, 2019 @02:55PM (#21671855)
Such as.... email?
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Re:The successor of SMS has already been hacked by michaelt on Saturday November 30, 2019 @03:01PM (#21671877)
E-mail doesn't have end-to-end encryption either. PGP doesn't count.
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Re:The successor of SMS has already been hacked by stewbrew on Sunday December 01, 2019 @01:37AM (#21674203)
Why doesn't pgp/gpg not count? Because it's too difficult to set up? Do you really trust an encryption with automatically generated, non-exchangeable keys?

That said hardly anybody I know still uses e-mail for private communication.

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Re:The successor of SMS has already been hacked by jhgaylor on Sunday December 01, 2019 @11:27AM (#21676166)
Why doesn't PGP count?
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Re:The successor of SMS has already been hacked by zamadatix on Sunday December 01, 2019 @07:59PM (#21679037)
Because it's PGP not email providing the encryption. Say we said PGP does count as e2ee for email, why doesn't it count for RCS? What about every protocol, I can just PGP sign messages on them so aren't they all e2ee?

Ideally when talking about e2ee it's not an optional opt in either but that's a whole different debate.

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Re:The successor of SMS has already been hacked by inetknght on Saturday November 30, 2019 @10:27PM (#21673648)
TLS isn't end-to-end encryption?
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Re:The successor of SMS has already been hacked by capitol_ on Saturday November 30, 2019 @10:47PM (#21673728)
Not in email. End-to-end here means that noone except sender and reciever can read the content. With tls and email you send it to a server which can read it, not to the enduser.
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Re:The successor of SMS has already been hacked by juped on Saturday November 30, 2019 @10:46PM (#21673721)
No. End to end means that plaintext exists only at the two ends (initial sender, final receiver) of a communication.
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Re:The successor of SMS has already been hacked by hprotagonist on Saturday November 30, 2019 @04:03PM (#21672131)
a total pain in the ass to really secure.

https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2018/06/e-mail_vulner...

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