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Re:Burned-Out Flash Trips Up Older Teslas by Aloha on Friday November 29, 2019 @03:38AM (#21662980)
Injectors and ignition coils are effectively wear parts however on an ICE engine. Though for balance here, I just had to replace the fuel injector on one of my cars, it lasted 30 years however, so I'm not too upset by the 300 bucks it cost to replace it.
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Re:Burned-Out Flash Trips Up Older Teslas by inferiorhuman on Friday November 29, 2019 @04:24AM (#21663190)
Injectors and ignition coils are effectively wear parts however on an ICE engine.

Injector drivers and ignition drivers are part of the control unit.

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Re:Burned-Out Flash Trips Up Older Teslas by barrkel on Friday November 29, 2019 @09:30AM (#21664583)
I'd strongly dispute that. Why not include the spark plugs as well? And the fuel pump?

The ECU is a computer, a packaged bundle of chips which plugs in to wires and does nothing but communicate to other components via those wires. That's what an electronic control unit means.

The driven devices, amplifiers etc. are under the control of the control unit. They are not part of the control unit. They're located in areas subject to much more heat and mechanical stress, and in most cases (ignition coils excepted) are mechanical in function.

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Re:Burned-Out Flash Trips Up Older Teslas by inferiorhuman on Friday November 29, 2019 @02:14PM (#21666188)
I'd strongly dispute that. Why not include the spark plugs as well? And the fuel pump?

Because...

The driven devices, amplifiers etc. are under the control of the control unit. They are not part of the control unit. They're located in areas subject to much more heat and mechanical stress, and in most cases (ignition coils excepted) are mechanical in function.

I'm not talking about the driven devices.

Here's a diesel example in video form:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4k-G1dMgFUo

Here's one in gasoline form:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mWlUuEx_xE

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Re:Burned-Out Flash Trips Up Older Teslas by phaedrus on Friday November 29, 2019 @11:34AM (#21665275)
I think GP is saying they're physically located on the ECU board / inside the ECU box, not that they're conceptually part of the ECU even if separate. Whether they are or not (physically inside the ECU box) differs by make and model.
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