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Re:Smart TVs like Samsung, LG and Roku are tracking everything by Mirioron on Thursday November 28, 2019 @03:42PM (#21660061)
At some point I wonder if we might not just start whitelisting domains instead. I think that it could be possible to design a UX that wouldn't be much of a hindrance to using your computer and phone on the same network. Eg any websites you deliberately visit get added to the whitelist, same with the other services you choose to use.

The amount of mostly unintentional (by the user) data transfers is out of hand.

Re:Smart TVs like Samsung, LG and Roku are tracking everything by Silhouette on Thursday November 28, 2019 @05:33PM (#21660612)
At some point, a combination of manual/explicit reputation tagging and a web-of-trust system might become a plausible defence against a lot of these user-hostile connections.

If your corporate site, where you advertise your new high-end TVs and laptops, starts triggering warnings in all your visitors' browsers that it might be associated with malware and falling off all the SERPs for similar reasons, you're going to stop loading it with junk pretty quickly (and its trust score will improve pretty quickly as a direct result). Likewise, if your smart device tries to phone home and home has acquired negative rep, maybe that connection gets blocked automatically at the firewall.

We'd need a system that was guided by interested/aware participants who are unlikely to be successfully gamed and that mostly "just worked" for average users, but we've managed to build those in other contexts before so it doesn't seem completely out of the question.

Re:Smart TVs like Samsung, LG and Roku are tracking everything by myrakle on Thursday November 28, 2019 @04:19PM (#21660258)
Actually, white listing is a better idea. You can white list with the PCWRT router too.
Re:Smart TVs like Samsung, LG and Roku are tracking everything by egdod on Thursday November 28, 2019 @05:20PM (#21660549)
And then everybody starts collecting data via AWS or whatever.
Re:Smart TVs like Samsung, LG and Roku are tracking everything by Mirioron on Friday November 29, 2019 @12:40PM (#21665723)
Even then, can't you tailor the whitelisting in a way where it only whitelists specific services on AWS? You could even make it timed so that other IOT devices can't exploit it.