Re:California school shooting shines light on murky 'ghost g...
by ndesaulniers on Wednesday November 27, 2019 @11:09PM
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Typically a gun assembled from parts would still have the lower receiver stamped with an ID.
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Re:California school shooting shines light on murky 'ghost g...
by milkthefat on Wednesday November 27, 2019 @11:23PM
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Pretty sure the kits they are referring to are “unfinished or 80% lowers” which become functioning with a trivial amount of drilling and cutting and are essentially sold as raw material instead of a part.
Re:California school shooting shines light on murky 'ghost g...
by madengr on Wednesday November 27, 2019 @11:59PM
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It’s not a trivial amount. I’m in the process of finishing an 80% AR-15 lower. Deep pocket milling with a hand router and crappy endmill just sucks.
Re:California school shooting shines light on murky 'ghost g...
by nlp_1 on Thursday November 28, 2019 @12:14AM
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The glock 80% market is blowing up with very very easy to finish kits. It can be done with a hand drill and an xacto knife in under a hour.
The shooter in the article probably built a 1911 from an 80% kit and the kits are getting easier to finish. The virginia tech shooter used two pistols I believe.
Just stating that some pistol kits are very easy to finish as opposed to an ar/ak
Re:California school shooting shines light on murky 'ghost g...
by madengr on Thursday November 28, 2019 @12:24AM
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I’d think a 1911 would require more, given they seem to be so finicky. Maybe that’s next on my project list. Glocks, meh. Never cared for them.
The ATF raided some shop in CA specializing in polymer lowers. Claimed they were too easy to finish, though they still met the 80% standard.
Re:California school shooting shines light on murky 'ghost g...
by craftyguy on Wednesday November 27, 2019 @11:16PM
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You can buy unfinished lowers ("80% lower receivers") with no serial number, since they are not yet functional lower receivers. It's really easy to buy these, and not too difficult to finish them. Then you have a 100% off the record firearm.
Re:California school shooting shines light on murky 'ghost g...
by digi59404 on Wednesday November 27, 2019 @11:52PM
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You don’t even need to buy the lower. 3D Printed lowers work just find. In addition you can also just make a mold out of sand. Melt down a bunch of aluminum cans and cast a lower.
This stuff isn’t rocket science.
Re:California school shooting shines light on murky 'ghost g...
by madengr on Thursday November 28, 2019 @12:02AM
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A cast lower would still require a non-trivial amount of machining to get it within tolerances. Forged lowers are still machined.