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Re:Go master Lee Se-dol says he quits, unable to win over AI... by blondie9x on Wednesday November 27, 2019 @10:19PM (#21654350)
The difference is that this AI agent was built to beat humans. Horses were not built to run faster than humans.

You have to remember the specific comparison and the art that humans tried to partake in to master go.

Humans do not run to beat horses. We never compete. That would be silly.

Cars and humans also do not compete at the 100 meter dash.

If humans and robots compete at 100 meter dash than the olympics will similarly lose its luster.

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Re:Go master Lee Se-dol says he quits, unable to win over AI... by 55555 on Wednesday November 27, 2019 @10:44PM (#21654437)
> Humans do not run to beat horses. We never compete. That would be silly

I hate to be that guy, but:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_versus_Horse_Marathon

It is very silly indeed.

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Re:Go master Lee Se-dol says he quits, unable to win over AI... by SubiculumCode on Thursday November 28, 2019 @12:49AM (#21654907)
2004 2007 a human won. Wow.
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Re:Go master Lee Se-dol says he quits, unable to win over AI... by MiddleEndian on Thursday November 28, 2019 @01:04AM (#21654967)
The race's setup is horse-friendly as well: Shorter than a regular marathon by a few miles and on flat terrain. A longer distance on hillier terrain would be won by humans much more often.
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Re:Go master Lee Se-dol says he quits, unable to win over AI... by timje1 on Thursday November 28, 2019 @05:33AM (#21656108)
There was an interesting article a couple of years back, positing that the years that humans won coincide with unusually warm weather. The takeaway was the humans have a superior cooling system for efficient long distance running, compared to most animal's superior sprinting capabilities.
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Re:Go master Lee Se-dol says he quits, unable to win over AI... by jmatthews on Friday November 29, 2019 @12:22AM (#21662253)
I believe only humans and dogs hunt via stamina. You can walk a horse to death or simply chase an antelope until it overheats and dies.
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Re:Go master Lee Se-dol says he quits, unable to win over AI... by cmonnow on Wednesday November 27, 2019 @11:08PM (#21654507)
'AI' is not an adversary. It is simply a tool created by hundreds of humans coming together.

It's like watching 1-v-100 boxing match. Of course the 100 are going to win.

Enjoyable sport has always been about ~similarly matched opponents. When we have DeepMind AI Go vs. MindDeep AI Go, that's when things get interesting.

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