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Re:Go master Lee Se-dol says he quits, unable to win over AI... by dragontamer on Wednesday November 27, 2019 @04:04PM (#21652127)
For the near term future, LeelaZero is the best public engine at computer Go.

This means if you enter a hypothetical "Cyborg" Go competition (computer-assistance allowed), the majority of newbies will simply be playing LeelaZero #1 plays over and over again.

You don't need to build an exhaustive opening book covering all possible moves. You only need to pick say, the top 5 moves LeelaZero ever considers. If you spend ~16-bytes per position and store 1-trillion positions on a 16TB Hard Drive, you'll be able to exhaustively map the top5 moves LeelaZero considers into 17-ply.

From there, you pick the positions that LeelaZero thinks its winning in, but in actuality is losing. You have a map towards 1-trillion positions to choose from, and your opponent (if they only pick from the top5 best moves LeelaZero ever outputs) will walk into your trap.

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As long as your opponent picks the top 5-moves from LeelaZero, you'll have the map towards victory. I think you're severely underestimating the abilities of a simple, dumb, opening database.

Re:Go master Lee Se-dol says he quits, unable to win over AI... by conistonwater on Wednesday November 27, 2019 @06:07PM (#21653084)
I think you're missing btilly's point, which is quite valid. Bear in mind that 17-ply is absolutely nothing in go.
Re:Go master Lee Se-dol says he quits, unable to win over AI... by sooheon on Wednesday November 27, 2019 @04:37PM (#21652365)
Time to compile that static dictionary > time for alphazero to play a few million more games against itself to advance the metagame.