Re:Ask HN: Quitting Big Tech, what is it like?
by mepiethree on Wednesday November 27, 2019 @08:36AM
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I used to work at Google, and I find the tooling much better on the outside. Heroku is much better than Google's deployment tool; Github is much better than their review tool.
The only things I miss are the snacks and the searchable codebase
Re:Ask HN: Quitting Big Tech, what is it like?
by hinkley on Wednesday November 27, 2019 @04:40PM
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I did a short contract at Amazon (not AWS) and I couldn't get away fast enough. What a rat's nest.
Re:Ask HN: Quitting Big Tech, what is it like?
by devicetray0 on Wednesday November 27, 2019 @09:37AM
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> and the searchable codebase
Do you mean that you'd search Google's entire codebase monorepo for code examples, or that there was a better, searchable code snippet tool internally?
Re:Ask HN: Quitting Big Tech, what is it like?
by paulgb on Wednesday November 27, 2019 @10:09AM
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> Do you mean that you'd search Google's entire codebase monorepo for code examples
As another former Googler, yes, searching the entire monorepo was a frequent occurrence. Internal code search is pretty good (it's a search company, after all) but I have to say that I don't miss it so much now that Sourcegraph exists.
Re:Ask HN: Quitting Big Tech, what is it like?
by ertemplin on Wednesday November 27, 2019 @09:59AM
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Not sure about google, but most of the big tech companies have a code browser website with a search feature that shows the most "relevant" repositories first in the search results. For example, repositories that people in your team or org have recently modified will show up near the top of the results.
Re:Ask HN: Quitting Big Tech, what is it like?
by nscalf on Wednesday November 27, 2019 @10:04AM
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And it's totally reasonable that this isn't common place. The team I'm with now has been spending a lot of our spare time at work trying to get a suite of tools built out to make things like logging, message publishing, etc. spun up easily. It is very painful. The simple case is pretty simple, but if you add any complexity to it you're in for a world of pain.
Re:Ask HN: Quitting Big Tech, what is it like?
by GFischer on Thursday November 28, 2019 @07:16PM
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Not sure what stack you're using, but Azure Application Insights is very nice for logging. And they have lots of tools for what you're mentioning (but you have to pay for them). If not, maybe you do have to build them (and it might be monetizable even!)
Re:Ask HN: Quitting Big Tech, what is it like?
by Quarrelsome on Wednesday November 27, 2019 @07:43AM
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it doesn't show up on the books. All companies over optimise for things they measure and under optimise for things they don't. Nobody has a reliable measure for development productivity so it oft doesn't receive the love it deserves.
Re:Ask HN: Quitting Big Tech, what is it like?
by verletx64 on Wednesday November 27, 2019 @07:33AM
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Easier said than done even if you _do_ get the time to invest into it.
Re:Ask HN: Quitting Big Tech, what is it like?
by GFischer on Thursday November 28, 2019 @07:14PM
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We're using Azure at my current workplace, and the amount of legwork you can get done is pretty amazing (as long as you're willing to pay for it). We have an ARM template to set up environments, deployment is painless with Azure DevOps, etc.
I never worked at FAANG but even after more than 10 years working in tech, it still surprises me how undervalued well working tooling is. I'm not talking about 100% automation with infinite possibilities. Just really basic stuff, like deployment or setting up a development environment. That should always be a no-brainer.