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Re:The Real Class War by chongli on Tuesday November 26, 2019 @05:35PM (#21643467)
high profile gay people

When I read this the first person I thought of was Alan Turing [1]. His was the fate of high profile gay people until the grassroots movement sprang from the Stonewall riots [1]. It was these activists who took the first steps to even make it possible for a high profile gay person to come out in public.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Turing

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stonewall_riots

Re:The Real Class War by pyuser583 on Friday November 29, 2019 @01:38AM (#21662547)
Do you seriously believe that upper class gays/lesbians and lower class gays/lesbians was the same?

In order for Alan Turing to be charged with “gross indecency”, he had to go the police himself, inform them he was gay (without being asked or prompted), and affirm it in a statement signed under penalty of perjury.

The only reason he did that was because he was so accustomed to people not caring, he didn’t think he was in any danger.

Being privileged has its privileges.

Re:The Real Class War by katet on Friday November 29, 2019 @09:47AM (#21664665)
I just had to look up that claim, and it seems that Turing admitted a homosexual relationship during a police investigation about his house being burgled, seeing as that relationship was with the accused burglar. That's slightly different to the implication that he walked into a police station of his own free will and promptly signed his own castration order.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Turing#Conviction_for_i...

(I'm aware of wikipedia fallibility but I'm on mobile and will generally trust in the citations for this particular individual)

Re:The Real Class War by pyuser583 on Friday November 29, 2019 @04:57PM (#21667064)
My description of his conviction was incomplete. I wasn’t trying to give a comprehensive account. I was simply trying to explain the level of protection his privilege afforded him.

He was comfortable reporting one of his lovers to the police because he was used to people looking the other way.

Obviously, one of the many downsides to criminalizing harmless behavior is that it places people outside the protection of the law.