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Re:Psilocybin for major depression granted Breakthrough Ther... by chrisweekly on Tuesday November 26, 2019 @02:54PM (#21642005)
Nice post. Wish I knew how to obtain some (legally or at least safely/discreetly).
Re:Psilocybin for major depression granted Breakthrough Ther... by oh-4-fucks-sake on Tuesday November 26, 2019 @03:51PM (#21642537)
When Albert Hoffman was put on trial in the late 1960s for LSD manufacture, his defense was that he was actually caught with ALD-52 (his discovery). He lost on account that he synthesized LSD first as a precursor.

Urban lore has it that some of the "really good acid" in the '60s under the moniker "Orange Sunshine" was actually ALD-52. This is heavily debated and we'll probably never know for sure how much, if any, ALD-52 was circulating.

Most interesting is that even though he was incarcerated, for whatever reason, the DEA never got around to scheduling ALD-52. It's technically still legal.

In order to combat designer drugs, the government put in place the Federal Analog Act which means you could be thrown in jail if you're caught with a previously-undocumented or never-scheduled drug that the courts find is similar enough to a scheduled one. However, this has only been invoked a handful of times (only 2 I can find) and would likely only ever been used against distributors. Bottom line, a recreational user is extremely, extremely unlikely to be nailed on this law.

Lucky for you, there's this massive, above-ground lab in Europe called Lizard Labs https://lizardlabs.eu/ and produce lab grade products. They might as well be the Eli Lily of gray market psychedelic drugs. You can't buy from them directly but they openly list retailers selling their products. If you live in Canada, Europe, or the US, there's a retailer that will ship to you super discretely through the mail. No tor required.

Here's their list: https://lizardlabs.eu/retailers/

I've never had an order seized, lost, or scammed. I mean, it's paper--nearly impossible to detect. People that have lost shipments have generally just had the item quietly seized by customs with no further repercussions. I've used theindoleshop.com multiple times.

Cheers.

Re:Psilocybin for major depression granted Breakthrough Ther... by dfraser992 on Tuesday November 26, 2019 @04:27PM (#21642910)
Hoffman was never arrested, I think you are thinking of Owsley. Hoffman was never a US citizen and I don't recall him ever getting into trouble.

As for the Analog Act, the UK's version is presumably watertight (it effectively bans smelling flowers, but not poppers because gay MPs objected to that being banned), but has not been tested AFAIK.

Re:Psilocybin for major depression granted Breakthrough Ther... by oh-4-fucks-sake on Tuesday November 26, 2019 @05:13PM (#21643282)
I think you're right, apologies. I always get the OG psychedelic guys mixed up in my head.
Re:Psilocybin for major depression granted Breakthrough Ther... by hutzlibu on Tuesday November 26, 2019 @08:14PM (#21644435)
Story is still mixed up ..

Apparently Hoffman also did invented ALD-25, but the failed defense strategy was from Tim Scully, who operated a lab and distributed orange sunshine for california ..

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ALD-52

Re:Psilocybin for major depression granted Breakthrough Ther... by i_am_good on Tuesday November 26, 2019 @04:26PM (#21642893)
Re:oh-4-fucks-sake

The website notes that what they have are "NOT for human consumption". Is it safe or is it different than what one would use for recreational purposes?

Re:Psilocybin for major depression granted Breakthrough Ther... by oh-4-fucks-sake on Tuesday November 26, 2019 @05:11PM (#21643264)
"NOT for human consumption" is a CYA clause so the seller can maintain some level of plausible deniability if the feds ever do try to come down on them. Rest assured, this is lab-grade, high quality stuff. I think they release lab results. DEA: "This fancy new drug looks like another scheduled drug." Seller: "It's not a drug; it's just a compound that we sell as a curiosity so get fucked."

This may hold at least some water in court.

It's akin to the age-old headshop rule of calling bongs "tobacco pipes" and kicking anyone out that calls them bongs.

Re:Psilocybin for major depression granted Breakthrough Ther... by arbitrary_name on Sunday December 01, 2019 @11:11PM (#21679762)
Is there a reliable place to read more about the chems? I'm enticed but also a bit confounded by all the names.