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Re:Data leak reveals how China 'brainwashes' Uighurs in pris... by atomicity on Sunday November 24, 2019 @02:23PM (#21622630)
I like how mentioned this fact. K12 education, church, prison, and re-education through labor are all systems that hold certain people 'captive'.

I've always felt arguments like "the parents can choose not to send their kid to their" or "the captor's intention was good" to be insufficient. No matter how that changes, the information/data flows from the captors to the 'captive' person's mind does not change much.

At the same time, it might not be possible to eliminate 'captive' information systems, especially if we loosen the definition of 'captive'. For example, you can pretty much only consume news in the language you know so you are held captive. However if you consume only English news, then you're worldview will be biased. English news only covers the more sensational international stories and journalists, who mostly have good intentions, are biased as well.

I ended up rambling a bit, but the main point is that axiomatic arguments don't solve the problem and the lines between good/bad are too 'fuzzy'. Practical solutions around info/data flow and a good understanding of how it makes the lives of 'captives' and others in the world might have more potential

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Re-education_through_labor

Re:Data leak reveals how China 'brainwashes' Uighurs in pris... by seanmcdirmid on Sunday November 24, 2019 @02:36PM (#21622737)
Boot camp would be another example, when they want to rebuild recruits as soldiers. There is actually a fine line between acceptable and unacceptable brain washing techniques, I’m not sure what it is.