Re:What I have learned from my suicidal patients
by whatshisface on Saturday November 23, 2019 @04:47PM
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One one hand, we have a growing body of research saying that almost nothing anybody does is rational, and that most "rational explanations" that people deliver are post-hoc rationalizations of something they did on a whim. The popular interpretation is that this represents evidence against free will, but that may be a little overblown. On the other hand, there is a parallel cultural trend of people arguing that suicide is rational, and that many suicidal patients are that way because they sat down and added up the utility of the various options. I guess my point is, when obesity drops to zero on the day that everybody realizes that it isn't rational to be fat, I'll start considering the possibility that people could "decide" to kill themselves.
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Re:What I have learned from my suicidal patients
by ghemsley on Monday November 25, 2019 @05:54PM
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Sorry, but you don't get it. Not all of us enjoy life that much. If I'm not getting what I want out of life, who are you to say that I have to stick around? It's perfectly reasonable to want to kill yourself given certain circumstances that are darker than I care to elaborate on right now, and you have no business saying otherwise. It should be up to the one suffering to decide when they've had enough. If you can't wrap your head around that, my guess is that you just haven't suffered enough. Everyone has their limit. I'm glad you are apparently far from yours but again, not all of us are so lucky.
Re:What I have learned from my suicidal patients
by clarry on Saturday November 23, 2019 @04:54PM
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It's not like people become fat on a whim or have no regrets about it happening. Likewise, you can plan suicide for years.
Re:What I have learned from my suicidal patients
by mjevans on Sunday November 24, 2019 @02:19AM
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Here's a hypothesis to consider.
Q: Is there a strong correlation between being lonely and being heavier?
H: Being lonely has several relations to eating 'worse' food, and more of it. An economical standpoint (at least in the US). A social activities promote things other than eating to fill time. A 'rewards' perspective, where lacking other forms of joy fatty, sugary, salty foods fulfill a basic stimulation requirement.
It would be interesting if a mental health research institution designed and ran a fundamental research study to determine if one, some, all, or more (possible) of these causes were related.