Campaigns to save honeybees don't solve the serious problems with pollination

Re:Campaigns to save honeybees don't solve the serious probl... by Aengeuad on Friday November 22, 2019 @04:34PM (#21610332)

There was only a temporary suspension in 2013 (wiki says two years) with the full ban only going into effect around the end of 2018, however two countries have issued emergency authorisation allowing the use of those pesticides regardless of the ban, I can't figure out which countries those are. https://www.euractiv.com/section/agriculture-food/news/eu-co...

I found a page mentioning pictures and statistics from Eurostat going up to 2016 but unless I'm blind there's no links and I don't see any pictures: https://www.bee-safe.eu/articles/bee-series/pesticide-use-in...

It could take years to fully undo the damage or for it to become evident in statistics, and even when/if the bee population does rise you need to account for the non-bee pollinating insect population that might be more affected by weaker pesticides that aren't going to be banned.

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Re:Campaigns to save honeybees don't solve the serious probl... by Nasrudith on Sunday November 24, 2019 @03:07AM (#21619075)

I don't see how it is toxicologically possible for it to not be statistically evident within years for insects. Taking time to fully recover sure, along with some persistence but not being statistically evident? That sounds very weird for any agent being diluted or dispersed over time - for any level of individual toxicity - let alone one decaying organic molecules.

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