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Re:Deepfakes: MIT brings Nixon's Apollo disaster speech to life by gojomo on Friday November 22, 2019 @01:26PM (#21608389)
The sorts of bad actors or 'enemies' who'd deploy deep fakes for advantage aren't typically discouraged by 'regulations'.

On the other hand, there is a reasonable amount of active research on both detecting current faking-techniques, and methods of adding cryptographic attestation from point-of-recording.

I don't believe "detection" can win in the end, as widespread detection-technology can generally be used to tune better fabrications.

So ultimately we'll have to rely on: "do we trust the specific chain-of-people-and-sensors-and-relays that brought this evidence to our purview?" And various kinds of constantly-applied cryptographic signing & timestamping can help with that, though interpreting the challenging cases will require a lot of abstract expertise. (So again, for most people, it may reduce to: "who do you choose to trust?")

Re:Deepfakes: MIT brings Nixon's Apollo disaster speech to life by throwaway5752 on Friday November 22, 2019 @02:28PM (#21609100)
Yes, we should not underestimate plain old social solutions. I remember when you used to answer the phone every time because caller id didn't exist. Who answers their phone now? This just mainstreams exceptional validation workflows that exist in finance for establishing identity and preventing phishing and other forms of identity attack.

We just won't be able to trust anyone is actually saying anything except after confirmation via non-repudiable channels.

Re:Deepfakes: MIT brings Nixon's Apollo disaster speech to life by armagon on Friday November 22, 2019 @03:00PM (#21609444)
I think this is a regional thing.

I'm from a rural community in Canada, and of course we answer the phone.

Just floors me to visit my mother-in-law in Texas; when we visited eight years ago, she'd answer the phone; now she doesn't answer her cell or her home phone unless it makes a distinctive ring. I'd hate to need to get ahold of her using someone else's phone.

Re:Deepfakes: MIT brings Nixon's Apollo disaster speech to life by ajmurmann on Friday November 22, 2019 @03:11PM (#21609543)
Obviously I'm not your mother-in-law, but I also don't answer my phone unless it shows it's someone I know because 95% of calls I get are spam. However, I will check my voicemail. So far every legitimate caller has left one to my knowledge.
Re:Deepfakes: MIT brings Nixon's Apollo disaster speech to life by Jamwinner on Friday November 22, 2019 @03:56PM (#21609988)
That is pretty strong selection bias however...
Re:Deepfakes: MIT brings Nixon's Apollo disaster speech to life by jfengel on Friday November 22, 2019 @03:20PM (#21609624)
I don't think detection would really help even if we had it. Even now, most fake-news stories are obviously fake. They have no subtlety; they don't fool anybody paying even the faintest shred of attention.

They'll be used on people who are already perfectly happy to believe fake printed quotes from obviously unreliable sources. When challenged, they'll refer to conventional partisan media citing those sources as proof. Ordinarily showing video would increase their certainty, but they're already absolutely certain. It'll just be a more entertaining way of delivering it to them.

Detection, no matter how definitive, can't deter that. They're already perfectly happy with their trusted sources.

Re:Deepfakes: MIT brings Nixon's Apollo disaster speech to life by extrapickles on Friday November 22, 2019 @02:27PM (#21609084)
I wonder how long it will be before someone stuffs a crypto module into the same package as a PDM microphone to provide a digitally signed audio stream.