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Re:Google Kills Cloud Print by bhouston on Friday November 22, 2019 @10:59AM (#21606738)
This is the right move though because moving towards "Driverless printing" will solve the overall problem in a simpler way:

https://openprinting.github.io/driverless/

Google is pro-adapting to change. And it is painful but it is usually the right thing.

Re:Google Kills Cloud Print by taborj on Friday November 22, 2019 @11:04AM (#21606791)
Driverless printing has been "the future" for over a decade now (I remember hearing much about it back in 2006 or so), and a concept for two decades. Microsoft first filed the patent back in 1999 [0]. The only thing that's changed is the patent is now expired (as near as I can tell), thus opening the door a bit wider for adoption.

But, as with many things, "I'll believe it when I see it."

[0] https://patents.google.com/patent/US6952831B1/en

Re:Google Kills Cloud Print by dTal on Friday November 22, 2019 @11:13AM (#21606887)
Ridiculous that a patent for such a thing should ever have been granted.

"Driver" is merely the word we use for "protocol", when the protocol is ad-hoc, non-standard, or badly documented.

Re:Google Kills Cloud Print by kube-system on Friday November 22, 2019 @03:04PM (#21609486)
On what grounds should that patent not have been granted?

Seems like a pretty normal patent to me. Technology doesn't have to be likable, a good design, or even functional to be patented.

Re:Google Kills Cloud Print by pawelmurias on Friday November 22, 2019 @04:16PM (#21610164)
On the grounds that laws allowing such patents shouldn't exist.
Re:Google Kills Cloud Print by mrighele on Friday November 22, 2019 @12:34PM (#21607806)
Isn't "driverless printing" essentially a standard printing protocol + a way to describe the printers capabilities ? If so I would say that driverless printing has been a thing since Postscript was invented (early 80s, if I am not mistaken)?
Re:Google Kills Cloud Print by pixl97 on Friday November 22, 2019 @11:12AM (#21606875)
Otherwise known as "why dont my pdf's print right, and why cant I select tray 3?"
Re:Google Kills Cloud Print by wlesieutre on Friday November 22, 2019 @11:14AM (#21606895)
AirPrint on iOS and macOS does this, no?

Not sure if anyone has cloned that in a Windows utility, but a lot of printers support it.

Re:Google Kills Cloud Print by amluto on Friday November 22, 2019 @12:19PM (#21607641)
Chrome OS supports “native” printing. I think it’s more or less interoperable with AirPrint.

The problem would be mostly solved if Windows added native support and added a giant warning when anyone tries to install a printer driver saying that it’s a terrible idea.

Re:Google Kills Cloud Print by criddell on Friday November 22, 2019 @12:08PM (#21607516)
Is that driverless or a universal driver? Maybe the distinction doesn't matter...
Re:Google Kills Cloud Print by lxgr on Friday November 22, 2019 @11:03AM (#21606781)
Absolutely!

Google Plus is the superior way of keeping up with blogs and news sites, and I am really enjoying texting with my friends over Allo ever since they discontinued Hangouts.

Re:Google Kills Cloud Print by mey on Friday November 22, 2019 @11:32AM (#21607116)
I prefer Google Reader
Re:Google Kills Cloud Print by daxfohl on Friday November 22, 2019 @11:42AM (#21607224)
I assume parent poster was being sarcastic
Re:Google Kills Cloud Print by psalminen on Friday November 22, 2019 @12:16PM (#21607605)
I believe your parent was too- Google Reader has also been cancelled.
Re:Google Kills Cloud Print by xkcd-sucks on Friday November 22, 2019 @12:06PM (#21607500)
I bought a $200 Brother laser printer a few years ago. It supports: >LPD >Raw Port >IPP >AirPrint >Mopria >Google Cloud Print

and, I think, a bunch of proprietary HP/Epson protocols.

The best part is the toner cartridge that comes with it lasts long enough to totally recoup the cost difference between it and a "consumer" inkjet printer

Re:Google Kills Cloud Print by Someone1234 on Friday November 22, 2019 @11:19AM (#21606945)
Until there's more competition in the printer space: good luck.

Printer companies want to differentiate and upsell. The best way of doing that is via software which means first party "drivers" (which is really this huge bundle of bloat and ads at this point). If anyone has recently installed a consumer inkjet for a family member will know what I am talking about. It is basically adware.

Those of us sticking to our nice boring laser printers aren't the main market for consumer printers, it is the Epson/HP/etc sold by big box retailers.

Re:Google Kills Cloud Print by criddell on Friday November 22, 2019 @12:11PM (#21607556)
HPs small business printers are annoying too. I bought an OfficeJet 8720 for my home and it's a pretty good printer except for the fact that they are relentless when it comes to pushing their auto-ink ordering. They also really want you to make an account at HP and put the printer on the internet.
Re:Google Kills Cloud Print by wiseleo on Friday November 22, 2019 @04:13PM (#21610138)
When people ask me about home printers for very occasional use, I advise them to use Staples/Office Depot/FedEx office printers at 12-14 cents per page. Saved a lot of people from buying printers.
Re:Google Kills Cloud Print by scarface74 on Friday November 22, 2019 @07:51PM (#21611636)
Printer manufacturers don’t care about up selling. They want to sell high margins ink/toner. All consumer printers support iOS and MacOS that don’t require drivers.
Re:Google Kills Cloud Print by gowld on Friday November 22, 2019 @11:57AM (#21607392)
Ahem.

> There exist a variety of methods for a client to submit a job to a printing system and print driverlessly-:

Use a cloud service such as Google Cloud Print (GCP).

Re:Google Kills Cloud Print by vchak1 on Friday November 22, 2019 @11:56AM (#21607385)
I guess Waymo will take it over in that case.