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Re:Systemd Brand by JohnFen on Thursday November 21, 2019 @03:40PM (#21599338)
> The log of OS components successfully starting up, as indicated by the green [ OK ], is what many people already identify systemd with. This made it a natural choice to derive our visual identity from.

That's an interesting comment, since the green [ OK ] was in use for bootup messages long before systemd was a thing. Nothing about it says "systemd" to me.

Re:Systemd Brand by floren on Thursday November 21, 2019 @03:43PM (#21599367)
Hmm, I think you'll find that SystemD has existed since Linux sprang fully-formed from Lennart Poettering's forehead in 2010.
Re:Systemd Brand by tannhaeuser on Thursday November 21, 2019 @04:01PM (#21599565)
It's a tasteless trait of Linux bootup processes since long before SystemD's existence (on RH, SuSE at least), along with totally accessible blue-on-black (wtf) terminal colors.
Re:Systemd Brand by jolmg on Thursday November 21, 2019 @04:13PM (#21599682)
The comment is true for me, though. When I see a linux machine boot up and display a series of aligned [ OK ]s on the left-hand side, I know instantly that it's using systemd. I don't remember seeing [ OK ] with sysvinit, or at least not as uniformly.
Re:Systemd Brand by int_19h on Thursday November 21, 2019 @05:48PM (#21600595)
It depended on the distro. Red Hat was using it for a long time, which I suspect is why systemd has it, too. Look here at 24:40 - this is Red Hat 9, released in 2003: https://youtu.be/QKtzfwyspU0?t=1300

Gentoo also did it from the get go, although it's not SysV.

Re:Systemd Brand by w0land on Thursday November 21, 2019 @09:56PM (#21602047)
No no no. I recall it from the firs linux distros i used, from 96 - 97, rpm based, both SuSE and RedHat.
Re:Systemd Brand by JohnFen on Thursday November 21, 2019 @07:23PM (#21601261)
> I know instantly that it's using systemd.

Except you don't know really know that. It is objectively true that such usage was around for a long time before systemd in some major distros. I was seeing it at least 10 years ago, and I still see it on my systems that don't use systemd.

Re:Systemd Brand by jolmg on Thursday November 21, 2019 @07:54PM (#21601453)
Well, I could be reasonably sure that it was, at least before I learned today that there were other init systems that also displayed their output like that. So, the statement:

> the green [ OK ], is what many people already identify systemd with

is true for people like me that were not familiar with those other systems.

For example, most probably use Ubuntu (and probably only Ubuntu), and as far as I know it didn't display those [ OK ] until after it adopted systemd. So, at least there's a very large portion of users that never saw those [ OK ] until systemd came along.

If I remember right, it was the same case with Archlinux, which is where I was first exposed to systemd.

Imagine, the biggest news in your distro is the migration to systemd and the first and most obvious change you notice is that the boot process has all these neat [ OK ]s instead of random text. I think it's to be expected that people would identify systemd with that.

Re:Systemd Brand by baked_ziti on Thursday November 21, 2019 @09:24PM (#21601906)
I guess you're right, your experience is universal. SystemD really IS where that comes from.
Re:Systemd Brand by jolmg on Friday November 22, 2019 @11:08AM (#21606826)
What do you mean? I thought we all agreed that it wasn't.