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Re:Google hires firm known for anti-union efforts by skyyler on Wednesday November 20, 2019 @04:35PM (#21588807)
From this firm's website:

"The Result: Despite dedicating millions of dollars to their organizing campaigns, the unions did not gain enough support to hold an NLRB-conducted election and were not able to organize any of the employees."

I'm not sure how preventing the organisation of labour is anything but evil. The employees wanted to unionize and this firm was able to prevent that. Nice job!

Re:Google hires firm known for anti-union efforts by chrisseaton on Wednesday November 20, 2019 @05:10PM (#21589133)
> the unions did not gain enough support

> The employees wanted to unionize

Sounds like they didn’t?

Trying to unionise people who don’t want to be unionised, and throwing their money around to do it, sounds not democratic.

Re:Google hires firm known for anti-union efforts by yabadabadoes on Wednesday November 20, 2019 @05:41PM (#21589413)
So the firm is selling itself as a waste of money and Google wants to throw shareholder money away?
Re:Google hires firm known for anti-union efforts by chrisseaton on Wednesday November 20, 2019 @05:47PM (#21589470)
Both sides are trying to present their point of view. Sounds like this firm helps you present your side against this avalanche of union money and people liked what they heard.

What’s wrong with people presenting how they see things and employees getting to decide?

Re:Google hires firm known for anti-union efforts by yabadabadoes on Wednesday November 20, 2019 @06:13PM (#21589654)
> What’s wrong with people presenting how they see things and employees getting to decide?

Sure, but I kind of doubt the direction avalanches of money are supposed to be going.

Maybe a system where costs are managed to be equal and parts of funding are handled by the state would allow more employees to get union and non union options presented to them fairly.

The US is headed to a very uneven system and that tends toward a lot of political problems so fixing distribution to workers should be a priority if the US wants to maintain democratic institutions.

Re:Google hires firm known for anti-union efforts by zeouter on Wednesday November 20, 2019 @08:06PM (#21590476)
So the company is doing this to protect employees who don't want to unionize?
Re:Google hires firm known for anti-union efforts by chrisseaton on Wednesday November 20, 2019 @08:32PM (#21590623)
No think they don’t want the union so tried to persuade the employees of their point of view and the employees agreed. Everyone can be acting rationally and reasonably in that situation.

Some unions are terrible. It’s in nobody’s interest but the union bosses for a bad union to bully their way in.

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Re:Google hires firm known for anti-union efforts by skyyler on Wednesday November 20, 2019 @07:24PM (#21590172)
You don't think that has anything to do with the consultancy that was brought in to prevent unionisation?
Re:Google hires firm known for anti-union efforts by GauntletWizard on Thursday November 21, 2019 @12:00AM (#21591591)
I think that has something to do with it. I don't think they held guns to the workers head and told them "vote union and die", though it was certainly a tactic.the Pinkertons used in the past.

Lobbying can only do so much to change ones mind.