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Re:Apple Antitrust Probe – Responses to Congress [pdf] by saagarjha on Wednesday November 20, 2019 @02:43PM (#21587656)
> iPhone users cannot set another browser as the default browser. Safari is one of the apps that Apple believes defines the core user experience on iOS, with industry-leading security and privacy features. As noted in response to Question 1, Safari is an “operating system app,” like the Phone, Camera and iMessage, which are designed to work together.

The third sentence does not follow from the first two, and does not answer the question.

> For each year since 2009, what is the total amount that Apple has accepted from Google for the right to be the default search engine in Safari and in any other Apple products or services? Please identify the amount accepted from Google in total and broken down by each Apple product.

> Apple’s search agreement with Google generates revenue based on referral traffic through the URL/search box on Apple’s Safari browser. Although Google search is set as the default, this can be changed in settings on iPhone to another search engine, such as Yahoo!, Microsoft Bing and DuckDuckGo. Consumers may also conduct searches on search apps available through the App Store, searches performed on the web (through the search engine’s web portal), or through virtual assistants like Siri, Cortana or Alexa that are available to users on our platform.

I like how Apple answered exactly zero parts of this question :/

Re:Apple Antitrust Probe – Responses to Congress [pdf] by nulbyte on Wednesday November 20, 2019 @03:11PM (#21587969)
> Safari is one of the apps that Apple believes defines the core user experience on iOS...

Is this not the same argument Microsoft made about Internet Explorer?

Re:Apple Antitrust Probe – Responses to Congress [pdf] by alexis_fr on Wednesday November 20, 2019 @03:24PM (#21588092)
Well, I’d answer so much yes, but if we condemn them to the same penalty as Microsoft, it’s gonna be 0.00.

Penalties were dropped I think in the wake of September 11, 2001.

Re:Apple Antitrust Probe – Responses to Congress [pdf] by mcphage on Wednesday November 20, 2019 @03:46PM (#21588310)
> I like how Apple answered exactly zero parts of this question :/

I think they did—at least, they answered the letter of the question, not the spirit of the question.

Q: what is the total amount that Apple has accepted from Google for the right to be the default search engine in Safari

A: $0, since Google doesn't pay Apple to be the default search engine. Instead, Safari "generates revenue based on referral traffic through the URL/search box on Apple’s Safari browser". So Apple gets a cut of Google's revenue, not a payment for being the default search engine.

Of course, that leaves open the possibility that Apple's cut of the revenue depends on whether they're the default search engine or not. I would guess it does.

Re:Apple Antitrust Probe – Responses to Congress [pdf] by dhagz on Wednesday November 20, 2019 @02:55PM (#21587791)
Of course: they are trying to set the narrative on this. They are trying to make the argument that Safari is like the other "operating system apps" that they don't allow you to change. I don't like that they're doing it, but it's less about answering the questions and more about framing it as though they aren't engaging in anti-competitive practices.