You argue they are regulations? European Regulations are law. European Directives and Regulation are the two main legislative

They argue users are using facebook because they want advertising, their primary usage is advertising and for that advertisement they consent to share their data. That's so ridiculous it is funny.

And no, FB does not give all the data, the definition of what data is in the regulation.

Both FB and their Privacy Director are not looking good.

> European Regulations are law.

Regulations have to be implemented and integrated into each country's laws. Countries may not have yet implemented GDPR

> their primary usage is advertising

I don't see where FB claimed that advertising is primary usage and others are secondary. i can infer from the text that they parceled as part of the "service promise"

> FB does not give all the data, the definition of what data

Facebook says they are GDPR compliant and i doubt they 'd say that without the consultation of at least one EU data authority (perhaps the irish?). https://www.facebook.com/business/gdpr

This is 100% wrong.

https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/law-making-process/types-eu-la...

Of course they'll say they're compliant. They have to to be able to operate. But they are not. They are operating illegally within the EU and they should be shut down.

I am sorry buboard, I don't know whether you are affilated with FB, but that's not just how it works. They indeed, just claim it. That's why you pay for General Counsel.

The GDPR (which is not the only EU privacy law) is fairly described as a “law”, “regulation” is just the formal EU law term for a directly-applicable primary legislative act, which is a kind of law. If you're complaining about the “EU” part, well, the GDPR applies in some non-EU countries too (e.g. in the EEA).

> They said that they ve been collecting WITH consent, at least with their definition of consent

Some data is collected with ostensible consent, some without, and there's still processing to deal with.

> And i bet only 4% want to pay taxes too. polls are not legal documents. Also, "wanted advertising" is very different from "accepted advertising as part of the terms"

Sure, but the GDPR also means you can't forcibly bundle consents together. You need to separately consent to invasive use of data for advertising versus provision of the basic service.

> I believe facebook does give all their personal data

Did this recently change? I seem to recall that Facebook are known for not providing e.g. the data they've got from you browsing other sites with FB cookies unless you went via some difficult legal route.

details, but they are not claiming that data collection is without consent. they claim that they need a separate consent to use that data to show personalized ads

> you can't forcibly bundle consents together

Yeah that is true. still, making an online poll about what people want in general is a ridiculous way to nullify an agreed contract

> you browsing other sites with FB cookies

that would depend on whether these are personally identifying or personal data in general

In practice for Facebook the attraction for their ads platform is precisely that you can target fine grained demographics. So I'm not sure if Facebook can do anything here without a drop in revenue.

Probably not, but that's kind of the point: Some things may make you money, but we do not allow you to do them. Find another way to make money.

GDPR is not different from other laws forbidding lucrative, but scummy, things.

A vast majority of political prosecutions for online extremism in Russia were carried out using info that VK subserviently provided to police and special services.

As for access, i assume there are server farms on quite a few countries looking for all kinds of patterns in chats. Until E2E encryption becomes extensively spread, it 's a joke to pretend there 's some kind of user privacy

Time to push the amounts up. 2% of worldwide annual revenue per infraction (e.g. per user) should start to add up after a while.

Whichever European social network replaces them.

Facebook is a freak social network considering how long it has survived. People used to migrate every one to two years.

GDPR makes it very difficult to touch user's private data for commercial purposes. that's the whole business of a SN so this is kind of precluded

If we start from scratch without all that it would be possible to make a profitable social network for a couple of bucks per month per user (or a tiered system, so heavy users or “influencers” would pay more while the base tier remains free).

They won't of course, because it leaves the market open for grabs.

Due to trade agreements US companies have to follow EU law, for EU citizens, even of those companies don't have a presence in the EU.

In other words Facebook would have to block EU users.