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Re:China by hohohmm on Wednesday November 20, 2019 @11:59AM (#21585684)
Full of bs that rides the trending US narrative on China. How much a self-fulfilling bubble of lies the western propaganda machine has weaved. Reading this article makes me feel like reading a white day dream that totally misses the reality, but checks all the right marks for the crusader mentality.

I see how quickly this gets down voted. I guess the media is not to be blamed for fabricating all kinds of lies, for it what does is only a reflection of what the western audience wants to see. The world is dividing just as quickly as the US is dividing internally. I would not doubt the possibility of another cold war, if the US bloc continues down this path by painting rivaling nations with a different ideology as a heretic against US' version of democracy and freedom, as an ultimate evil to be crusaded, its people as mindless zombies brainwashed and eager for a quick dose of freedom drug. After all, the zealous fever commits all the worst atrocities with the most self-righteous goals. History has repeated itself enough times to not see the obvious.

Re:China by dang on Wednesday November 20, 2019 @03:10PM (#21587953)
The comment is getting downvoted because it is a flamewar rant, which is not in the spirit of this site and breaks its rules: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.

When disagreeing, try to respond neutrally and with specific, better information. I know how hard that is to do when representing a minority viewpoint, but it's even more important to do it in that case. If instead you lash out and break the rules, you discredit your own truth and reinforce the other side's perception of it.

Re:China by kick on Wednesday November 20, 2019 @12:50PM (#21586345)
News Guidelines:

Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:China by hohohmm on Wednesday November 20, 2019 @01:19PM (#21586682)
Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. That destroys intellectual curiosity, the value of the site.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:China by account73466 on Wednesday November 20, 2019 @03:25PM (#21588099)
How else to turn HN guys to do illegal and/or immoral privacy-related things if not to make them feel that they are doing the right thing?
Re:China by kick on Wednesday November 20, 2019 @05:02PM (#21589058)
Both of you are Han Chinese, judging by your post history, correct? While this may be intellectually hostile for you, it's certainly intellectually stimulating, and helpful to the people in your country who aren't of the ethnic majority (and to people of the ethnic majority outside of your country, in places like Taiwan, that your government desires to claim so strongly).
Re:China by hohohmm on Wednesday November 20, 2019 @09:27PM (#21590915)
"If you can't convince with a real argument, bring ethnicity into the discussion to discredit."
Re:China by account73466 on Thursday November 21, 2019 @06:58AM (#21593254)
even with that he failed
Re:China by account73466 on Thursday November 21, 2019 @06:52AM (#21593230)
No, I am not. I am a white man living in Western Europe. Yet another time, you are wrong.
Re:China by kick on Wednesday November 27, 2019 @12:49AM (#21645597)
Half of your posts are in broken English, and your broken English isn't consistent with any language I'm aware of popular in Western Europe.
Re:China by dragonwriter on Wednesday November 27, 2019 @12:59AM (#21645624)
Your probably not familiar with all the langauges of Western Europe, and, in any case, a white man living in Western Europe need not be a native speaker or any language of Western Europe (they could, e.g., be a native of Eastern Europe now living in Western Europe.)
Re:China by bilbo0s on Wednesday November 20, 2019 @12:06PM (#21585766)
To be fair, Western lies or Chinese lies, it's all the same.

A bit disingenuous to only call out the Western lies. What do you think about the Chinese lies?

I don't think you're any more honest than the guy who wrote this article. Neither of you are being forthright. Perhaps that's ignorance? Or maybe willful deceit? Either way, you're not to be taken seriously either.

Re:China by hohohmm on Wednesday November 20, 2019 @12:09PM (#21585810)
Lies are lies. Chinese lies are easy to spot and rarely pretend it's lying. Western lies are so elaborately fabricated and that's what inspires articles like this.
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Re:China by hohohmm on Wednesday November 20, 2019 @12:07PM (#21585770)
If there was much sympathy for the students in the Tiananmen square incident, it's now totally wiped clean by the Hong Kong rioting.

Use YouTube, it does slightly better than your main stream fake news.

Re:China by jjcc on Wednesday November 20, 2019 @01:54PM (#21587130)
It was also a big surprise that there's a significant change of the altitude towards Tiananmen Square incident. It's less obvious in the comments on Youtube but more on Chinese social media that are invisible to English readers.

No body support killing innocent people but many people think differently than before.