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Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by isostatic on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @09:52AM (#21573355)
Sweden doesn't have a death penalty. If it did, UK law would not allow extradition to Sweden.
Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by Miner49er on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @09:58AM (#21573419)
I'm not talking about Sweden. The charges in Sweden never mattered besides being a way for him to be extradited to the U.S.

The U.S. does have the death penalty, and it would be on the table if the U.S. didn't tell the U.K. he won't get it. It's still possible that the U.S. lied of course.

Either way, he'll likely be put in prison in the U.S. for the rest of his life.

Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by mariorossi666 on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @10:13AM (#21573616)
> I'm not talking about Sweden. The charges in Sweden never mattered besides being a way for him to be extradited to the U.S.

Citation needed.

The fact that Swedes are being honest here, doesn't prove anything.

Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by Miner49er on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @10:24AM (#21573776)
He always maintained he didn't face the charges in Sweden for fear of being extradited to the U.S.

For sexual assault he'd likely already be getting out of prison in Sweden, or at least be very close. Extradition to the U.S. has always been the real threat to him. The fact that he's facing extradition now proves it was a valid concern.

Even if the Swedes were honestly just trying to get him for sexual assault, he was still gonna face U.S. extradition. It doesn't matter if they were helping the U.S. knowingly or not.

Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by mariorossi666 on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @10:33AM (#21573898)
> He always maintained he didn't face the charges in Sweden for fear of being extradited to the U.S.

Yeah... not really.

He's guilty of being a dick to women and is finally paying for it.

    According to court transcripts, Assange said he “wanted to impregnate women” and “preferred virgins because he would be the first to impregnate them”. He also reportedly told one of his alleged victims that “Sweden is a good country to have kids in”. 

    It’s unclear if Assange has engaged in this behavior with other women, but it is clear that he was fixated on, if not obsessed with, impregnating women. By the time he was accused of sexual assault, he had impregnated at least four women, all of whom gave birth to the children.
There also was the time when he tried to scare them, to make them drop charges by using wikileaks as a weapon to frame them as manipulators

    “An actual court case is going to be very, very hard for these women,” he warned. “They will be reviled forever by a large segment of the global population, so I don’t think it’s in their interest to proceed that way.”
And he also wanted to share his opinion on Sweden with the rest of the World

   “I fell into a hornets’ nest of revolutionary feminism,” Assange said in a 2010 interview during which he also described Sweden as “the Saudi Arabia of feminism”.

Imagine saying the same thing of U.S. in U.S. while accused of having raped a woman from U.S.A.

He clearly deserve what happened to him in Sweden, I don't know about the rest, but the Sweden rape case was the nail on his coffin, and he's the sole responsible for it.

https://bylinetimes.com/2019/05/02/julian-assange-is-a-misog...

Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by WrtCdEvrydy on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @11:13AM (#21574523)
> being a dick to women

I'll take things that are not crimes being used as proof of a crime for 1000, Alex.

Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by mariorossi666 on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @11:19AM (#21574616)
> I'll take things that are not crimes being used as proof of a crime for 1000, Alex.

Rape is a crime.

Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by WrtCdEvrydy on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @11:22AM (#21574653)
You said 'being a dick to women' and 'is finally paying for it'....
Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by mariorossi666 on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @11:29AM (#21574773)
raping women is being a dick with women.

And this wasn't the first time he was accused of rape.

It was at least the fourth time.

So yeah, being that kind of dick to women is a crime in my book.

Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by im3w1l on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @11:39AM (#21574919)
This is valuable context I have not seen posted in an Assange thread here before, thanks.
Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by isostatic on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @03:10PM (#21577722)
> he was still gonna face U.S. extradition

Which would have been no different to the UK

Lets take the conspiracy theory at face value

1) Assange in UK 2) Sweden tried to extradite him (via an EAW) relating to charges in Sweden 3) Assange goes to Sweden 4) The charges are dropped, but instead the US extradites him from Sweden to the US

1) Assange in UK 2) Sweden tried to extradite him (via an EAW) relating to charges in Sweden 3) Assange goes to Sweden 4) The charges are actually real, he goes to trial, gets off, then the US extradites him from Sweden to the US

1) Assange in UK 2) Sweden tried to extradite him (via an EAW) relating to charges in Sweden 3) Assange goes to Sweden 4) The charges are actually real, he goes to trial, goes to jail, then the US extradites him from Sweden to the US after his sentence

1) Assange in UK 2) Sweden tried to extradite him (via an EAW) relating to charges in Sweden 3) Assange doesn't goes to Sweden 4) The US extradites him from UK to the US

Why is Scenario 4 any different to scenarios 1, 2, 3?

Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by monocasa on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @06:19PM (#21579432)
Extraordinary rendition.

Sweden has historically been more than happy to just let US intelligence just black bag Swedish residents and take them to prisons in countries that allow torture, whereas until recently the UK wouldn't even let extraordinary rendition flights refuel on British territory.

Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by isostatic on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @11:05AM (#21574409)
So he'll be extradited from Sweden, but not from the UK? Why?
Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by ptaipale on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @09:58AM (#21573423)
It doesn't work quite like that. People can be extradited to countries that have death penalty, as long as the country gives guarantees that death penalty (or other cruel punishment) will not be applied. Thus it is possible for a person to be extradited to U.S. for a murder committed in the U.S., but the death penalty is then not possible.
Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by isostatic on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @11:16AM (#21574570)
Well yes, it was a shorthand.

There aren't many countries with the death penalty that the UK has an extradition treaty with - 12 out of 121.

Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by stjohnswarts on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @12:41PM (#21575747)
Yeah but Sweden was just going to turn him over to the USA.
Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by isostatic on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @01:24PM (#21576298)
They denied this. Why would liberal Sweden tarnish their reputation? What makes Sweden more likely to extradite him than the UK?
Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by stjohnswarts on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @01:33PM (#21576438)
I didn't say the UK wouldn't, I believe both countries would turn him over rather quickly to the USA to get some diplomatic points. They don't care what happens to Assange because he is a citizen of neither one.
Re:Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation by isostatic on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @03:04PM (#21577646)
So why the whole charade of extraditing him from the UK to Sweden, to then begin the "to US" process, when the "to US" process could have simply started in the UK?