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Re:Highs and lows of Lowell Cafe, America’s first cannabis cafe by malvosenior on Monday November 18, 2019 @11:09AM (#21565393)
I wonder how much of this has to do with US infrastructure and lifestyle in general. In the majority of the US (and definitely California) you have to drive long distances to do pretty much anything. While it's not as bad as drinking I don't think it's safe or recommended to drive while high.

People in the US also generally have large screen TVs, lots of channels on cable satellite, large living rooms., large refrigerators.. all of which are fairly conducive to using high powered weed and zoning out on your couch.

Re:Highs and lows of Lowell Cafe, America’s first cannabis cafe by say_it_as_it_is on Monday November 18, 2019 @12:27PM (#21566167)
I replied this in another comment but think it is worth repeating here:

We're experiencing a product made by the underground cannabis community for that community -- habitual consumers. The tolerance level of a habitual consumer is really high. So, for decades, breeders chose to continue growing the strongest strain, every time, for years and years. Then, when commercial players entered the market, they took those high-thc strains and put them through even greater quality controls, making strains even more potent.

So, while people in the US do want everything bigger and "better", this doesn't apply to casual alcohol consumption. Americans aren't hammering down shots of grain alcohol. For casual drug use, though, there's a wider preference. The cannabis product that growers and breeders are making was crafted for the OG cannabis community. As they make their own strains with mass appeal, those strains will be far friendlier to casual consumption.

Re:Highs and lows of Lowell Cafe, America’s first cannabis cafe by malvosenior on Monday November 18, 2019 @12:41PM (#21566297)
I agree, although I think it's not just tolerance level. Until recently, smoking was the most popular way to ingest marijuana. Smoking kind of sucks though, so it's best to smoke as little as possible to get the desired effects. Ironically, the strongest strains are in a way the healthiest for you as you can do a very small amount vs smoking a large quantity of plant material.
Re:Highs and lows of Lowell Cafe, America’s first cannabis cafe by geebee on Monday November 18, 2019 @03:11PM (#21567685)
That's a good point, though we may be dealing with small amounts regardless. For instance, I read that for one study of tobacco lung cancer, a "moderate" smoker starts at 10 cigarettes a day. (woah). So let's say someone smokes 10 cigarettes a day, every day, and let's say a single cigarette takes 10 moderate drags (I'm getting this by googling and using the first reddit thread I find, I don't smoke).

Ok, so 103010 = 3000 drags a month for a light/moderate smoker.

Now, imagine a casual (2x a month) cannabis user who actually smokes most of a smallish preroll, 6 drags (though they may be deeper). So we're looking 12 drags a month vs 3000.

I have no idea if the extra 8-10 drags from weaker cannabis make a difference vs 1-2 on something stronger, but we're talking about an extremely low dose, either way, compared to any kind of cigarette smoking, maybe low enough that the difference isn't measurable.

Re:Highs and lows of Lowell Cafe, America’s first cannabis cafe by dwoozle on Monday November 18, 2019 @11:46AM (#21565778)
I think it’s more that Americans culturally tend to the “extreme sports” mentality in many aspects of their lives. Biggest baddest loudest most intense most successful mosh committed hardest working are all excessively venerated here.
Re:Highs and lows of Lowell Cafe, America’s first cannabis cafe by malvosenior on Monday November 18, 2019 @11:56AM (#21565866)
That's not particularly reflected in other forms of intoxication though. A ton of people in the US drink super light beer for instance (vs hard alcohol). They also tend to avoid espresso shots in favor of shake-like products.

I'm not saying you're incorrect but other consumption habits don't always lean toward the most extreme option.

Re:Highs and lows of Lowell Cafe, America’s first cannabis cafe by catalogia on Monday November 18, 2019 @03:46PM (#21567978)
> they also tend to avoid espresso shots in favor of shake-like products.

Maybe they're just competing to see who can have the biggest, sweetest, most extravagant beverage, rather than who can make it the most concentrated. If the name of your coffee beverage takes five minutes to pronounce, you're the coolest cat in town.

Re:Highs and lows of Lowell Cafe, America’s first cannabis cafe by asdff on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @02:06AM (#21571165)
I mean there are still plenty of alcoholics and people with beer bellies. Light beer is more conducive to American activities, maybe. If you are sitting out in the hot sun, are you going to start ripping shots or drinking red wine, or a cold beer? A cup of drip coffee is typically stronger than espresso as well.
Re:Highs and lows of Lowell Cafe, America’s first cannabis cafe by malvosenior on Tuesday November 19, 2019 @08:09AM (#21572513)
My original point was that maybe strong weed was more conducive to American activities :)