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Re:Pointless work meetings 'really a form of therapy' by jt2190 on Friday November 15, 2019 @10:12AM (#21545411)
> the asynchronous “always on, always connected” style

Nit: I've always heard this called synchronous, since in this style work is performed immediately, rather than queued up to wait for execution at a scheduled time.

Re:Pointless work meetings 'really a form of therapy' by PragmaticPulp on Friday November 15, 2019 @11:24AM (#21546132)
> Nit: I've always heard this called synchronous, since in this style work is performed immediately, rather than queued up to wait for execution at a scheduled time.

I referred to meetings as synchronous because they acquire a lock on everyone's time, at a specifically scheduled time on their calendar.

I refer to Slack and e-mail communication as asynchronous because you're not explicitly locking other people's calendars, but those other people are expected to read and respond to the notifications all throughout the day.

If you never know when the next important "@here" conversation is going to pop up in one of your Slack channels, the only way to have a seat at the table is to be always on, always connected.

Re:Pointless work meetings 'really a form of therapy' by stjohnswarts on Friday November 15, 2019 @10:55AM (#21545818)
I don't agree, there is nothing requiring them being synchronous since anyone can send a message at anytime and the response can be delayed an arbitrary amount of time unlike a meeting which has a definite start and stop. That certainly sounds asynchronous to me.
Re:Pointless work meetings 'really a form of therapy' by DougBTX on Friday November 15, 2019 @11:14AM (#21546017)
There’s certainly confusion about this, as Slack can be used for both.

If someone sends you a message, and they’re happy to wait for a reply, then that’s asynchronous.

If someone posts an @here in a channel asking for comments before making a final decision on the spot, then that's synchronous.

Re:Pointless work meetings 'really a form of therapy' by lisper on Friday November 15, 2019 @11:26AM (#21546150)
Yes, and this is exactly the problem with Slack: it tries to shoehorn both modes into a single mechanism.

Asynchronous communications must be structured fundamentally differently from synchronous ones in order to be effective. Trying to merge them into a single mechanism is a horrible mistake.

Re:Pointless work meetings 'really a form of therapy' by wutbrodo on Friday November 15, 2019 @12:23PM (#21546688)
Async communication is what email is for! People who use Slack for sync communication are hopelessly confused (obvious tell: async doesn't notify you). This obviously only applies to DMs, @heres, and tags: public channels are just async modes that can smoothly transition into sync
Re:Pointless work meetings 'really a form of therapy' by ClumsyPilot on Friday November 15, 2019 @10:07PM (#21550730)
I always treat slack as asynchronous.

I find phonecalls less disruptive, they happen once, and the issue is addressed. If it is dragging too long, we move it to a meeting.

A chat session can continue indeterminate amount if time, keep flaring up and distracting you as different people chime in from half-afk half-paying attention standpoint.

Re:Pointless work meetings 'really a form of therapy' by buboard on Friday November 15, 2019 @10:21AM (#21545507)
correct. Asynchronous is something like email
Re:Pointless work meetings 'really a form of therapy' by andrewfong on Friday November 15, 2019 @11:41AM (#21546298)
Technically, you can demand an immediate response via email (and in some industries, this is quite common). It's the expectations around the channel that matter.
Re:Pointless work meetings 'really a form of therapy' by dcsommer on Friday November 15, 2019 @12:44PM (#21546902)
Agreed, but I would say that chat channels (and especially 1:1 chat pings) typically have expectations closer to immediate mode compared to other mediums. Because they typically cause a notification and break in concentration, I label them as "synchronous." Any communication medium that does not have notifications and only works via me polling it is asynchronous.
Re:Pointless work meetings 'really a form of therapy' by buboard on Friday November 15, 2019 @11:52AM (#21546389)
a lot of things matter. Just the fact that there is no pre-loaded text area to respond changes the dynamics of the conversation.