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Re:In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M ... by robenkleene on Thursday November 14, 2019 @01:47PM (#21538142)
It's cloud-based so they can hold your data hostage and charge a subscription fee.

The cloud synced updating features you're talking about work fine for me already with 1Password's iCloud-backed syncing, which is how most Mac and iOS apps sync data, it's just in that model Apple has control of my data, not 1Password (and I don't pay a subscription fee), so they make it incredibly difficult to configure that way.

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Re:In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M ... by ymolodtsov on Thursday November 14, 2019 @02:14PM (#21538386)
You do realize you’re literally like the person who was saying “who needs Dropbox i can do it myself in 5 bash lines”?
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Re:In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M ... by robenkleene on Thursday November 14, 2019 @02:19PM (#21538429)
Wha..? I'm totally not following, iCloud syncing is completely transparent and built-in to 1Password. There's 0 extra work to support it (outside of finding how to turn it on, because it's buried in the UI), there's literally less work than 1Password's own subscription service, because that requires setting up an account whereas iCloud doesn't.
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Re:In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M ... by hnra on Thursday November 14, 2019 @02:35PM (#21538574)
You can use iCloud without an account? Is iCloud available outside of Apple ecosystem? Otherwise it doesn't seem very relevant since its not a general solution.
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Re:In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M ... by robenkleene on Thursday November 14, 2019 @02:47PM (#21538684)
Yes, you're right, this only works for Apple devices, so going cross-ecosystem is definitely a benefit of their subscription service! I disagree on that meaning it's the iCloud solution is irrelevant though, skipping the $36/a year, and the additional control over your data not being on a subscription entails, seem like relevant benefits for the people who fit those requirements!
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Re:In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M ... by inferiorhuman on Friday November 15, 2019 @06:19AM (#21543981)
Is iCloud available outside of Apple ecosystem?

Yes.

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Re:In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M ... by gbear605 on Thursday November 14, 2019 @03:00PM (#21538806)
What if you have a device that iCloud isn’t available on? What if you want to check passwords on someone else’s computer? Or on a public one?
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Re:In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M ... by robenkleene on Thursday November 14, 2019 @03:16PM (#21538960)
Agreed, those are advantages of the 1Password subscription service. My opinion about 1Password wanting to migrate people to their subscription service for business reasons is based on reading forum threads over the years to figure out where they've buried the option each time there's a new version. E.g., there are two ads for their sync service on the page that describes how to use iCloud[1] (they've toned-down the messaging a ton these days, that support page didn't used exist, and the forum support thread were banging the 1Password Cloud Sync drum much harder than they do today).

Note also I'm replying to this comment "It’s cloud-based because the majority of password management users want automatic cross-device updates without setting up their own server." Seems relevant that "cross-device updates" don't require a server (at least among Apple devices)?

[1]: https://support.1password.com/sync-with-icloud/

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