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Re:Moto Razr 2019: A foldable smartphone with no display crease by d--b on Thursday November 14, 2019 @02:11AM (#21533433)
I am waiting to see just how many times you can actually fold / unfold before the screen breaks.
Re:Moto Razr 2019: A foldable smartphone with no display crease by retSava on Thursday November 14, 2019 @02:57AM (#21533628)
The Jerry rig everything channel on Youtube comes pretty close imho to real world scenarios, except for the burn test though.

For those not familiar with his channel, he tests new phones from a durability perspective, using Mohs hardness scale picks of varying hardness to see where screens begin to scratch (ie will keys scratch? sand?), and the infamous bend test simulating sitting down with the phone in a tight pocket. He also does teardowns, looking at eg rubber gaskets for moisture protection.

Fun thing from JRE: the apple glass used in the phones and watch aren't really that much different from any run of the mill middle-class phone today. It's pretty much a standard solution. Keys, coins won't scratch, but sand, gravel, stone might. He checks this against a (Tissot?) watch that uses a sapphire glass, and doesn't scratch.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWFKCr40YwOZQx8FHU_ZqqQ

Re:Moto Razr 2019: A foldable smartphone with no display crease by unityByFreedom on Thursday November 14, 2019 @02:44AM (#21533581)
Maybe it will be a new feature, openable 10,000 times! Like battery life on smartphones, which was never an issue for dumb phones.
Re:Moto Razr 2019: A foldable smartphone with no display crease by dwoozle on Thursday November 14, 2019 @02:52AM (#21533608)
It wasn’t an issue on dumb phones because dumb phones weren’t interesting enough or good enough to use for six hours a day.
Re:Moto Razr 2019: A foldable smartphone with no display crease by pjmlp on Thursday November 14, 2019 @03:05AM (#21533667)
Apparently my Symbian phones didn't any issue lasting a couple of days.

C++, Java, Python, Camera, video, a multitasking OS, Internet access, lasting two/three days on single charge.

Yet my first Android device, running Froyo, could hardly last a full day, in spite of forked Java that was supposed to perform better than what Nokia and Sony were delivering.

Re:Moto Razr 2019: A foldable smartphone with no display crease by kalleboo on Thursday November 14, 2019 @06:37AM (#21534609)
I always had to carry spare batteries for my Symbian devices, no way did they last a couple of days under regular use. Same with my Sony Ericsson J2ME phones. Running stuff like IRC, streaming radio, bluetooth headphones, really sucked down the battery.
Re:Moto Razr 2019: A foldable smartphone with no display crease by pjmlp on Thursday November 14, 2019 @06:49AM (#21534669)
My very last one, Nokia 6120 classic did last a couple of days.

> The battery life of Nokia 6120 is impressive. To give you an example, a daily average of 5 minutes of calls and 20 SMS requires charging every four to five days. More demanding jobs, including active internet browsing in UMTS, will surely reduce durability to 2-3 days, but even so the phone does great. Charging takes about 2.5 hours.

https://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_6120_classic-review-161.php

Try to do this with most mid range Android devices.

Re:Moto Razr 2019: A foldable smartphone with no display crease by baybal2 on Thursday November 14, 2019 @07:27AM (#21534851)
Indeed, and that's why a lot of people in China now buy a secondary "dumbphone" in addition to smartphone.

I believe we will end with 6.8~7.2 inch smartphones going mainstream in the West too soon.

People will be carrying their aircraft carrier sized smartphones in bags, or pouches, while using a dumbphone for talk.

Checkout Xiaomi Qin A1

Re:Moto Razr 2019: A foldable smartphone with no display crease by kalleboo on Friday November 15, 2019 @12:56AM (#21542586)
> a daily average of 5 minutes of calls and 20 SMS requires charging every four to five days

I literally laughed out loud at that.

Modern smartphones have fantastic battery life if you switch off data and use them like dumbphones. When I travel sometimes I leave my home SIM with data off in an old iPhone and it easily lasts a week.

Re:Moto Razr 2019: A foldable smartphone with no display crease by pjmlp on Friday November 15, 2019 @02:41AM (#21543042)
Most people still follow such patterns, not everyone is glued on their phone 24x7.

I am yet to own an Android device that lasts more than 3 days.

Re:Moto Razr 2019: A foldable smartphone with no display crease by kalleboo on Friday November 15, 2019 @06:14AM (#21543967)
Do you literally switch off data, or just not use it? All those background connections for push notifications, etc take a huge toll.

My iPhone 11 Pro Max lasts 2 days with decently heavy use if I'm not going totally crazy on it, I haven't used Android in ages though.

Re:Moto Razr 2019: A foldable smartphone with no display crease by pjmlp on Friday November 15, 2019 @09:11AM (#21544891)
Data is only switched on when required, we are far away from flatrates over here.
Re:Moto Razr 2019: A foldable smartphone with no display crease by nicoburns on Thursday November 14, 2019 @09:36AM (#21535644)
In fairness, my Samsung S7 will happily last 2-3 days on a charge if I put it in "ultra power saving mode" (and this is a 3 year old device). And this still allows me to make calls/texts, use WhatsApp, the camera, and browse the internet. The Nokia 6120 presumably couldn't ever do much more than that.
Re:Moto Razr 2019: A foldable smartphone with no display crease by twduke on Thursday November 14, 2019 @03:19AM (#21533741)
Snake would like a word with you