Re:John Carmack: I’m going to work on artificial general int...
by hackinthebochs on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @11:07PM
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The parent's point was that reaching AGI isn't merely a research problem, in the sense of X amount of person-hours of research by typical researchers will solve the problem. Rather, we need new ideas and new conceptual frameworks, i.e. new imaginative leaps to reveal the path forward towards AGI.
Re:John Carmack: I’m going to work on artificial general int...
by wpietri on Thursday November 14, 2019 @12:17AM
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Could you list a few fields of research where "X amount of person-hours of research by typical researchers will solve the problem"? I can't think of one.
Re:John Carmack: I’m going to work on artificial general int...
by hackinthebochs on Thursday November 14, 2019 @08:48AM
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It's not about fields specifically, but about particular problems within fields. An example is neuroscience discovering the function of some unknown functional unit of the brain. We have all the conceptual machinery to solve the problem, we just need to fill in the details. On the other hand, the problem of consciousness doesn't even have the conceptual machinery in place such that more details will lead to the solution. A solution here will require conceptual leaps that we can't put a boundary on like we reasonably can when the conceptual groundwork is already established.
Re:John Carmack: I’m going to work on artificial general int...
by mantap on Thursday November 14, 2019 @12:17PM
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In mathematics the word used for these kinds of problems is "inaccessible", e.g. Reimann Hypothesis or (previously) Fermat'a Last Theorem. I don't know if Carmack's chances are as good as Wiles' were but certainly better than the average joe. It's also the case that AI is a substantially younger field (arguably it was only possible to correctly evaluate ideas since powerful GPUs were released this decade) and so the difficulty of open problems including AGI is not yet known.
Re:John Carmack: I’m going to work on artificial general int...
by ginko on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @11:42PM
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That’s research.
Re:John Carmack: I’m going to work on artificial general int...
by mycall on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @10:49PM
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My favorite AGI so far is Cyc.
Re:John Carmack: I’m going to work on artificial general int...
by DonHopkins on Thursday November 14, 2019 @06:43AM
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It would be great to see what Carmack could contribute to Cyc, not just his own common sense (which would be great too), but deep rich useful interesting applications of commonsense knowledge (including but not just games).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyc
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonsense_knowledge_(artific...
The reason why the latter has some chance is there are sometimes approaches tried early on in a field that can't succeed because something else needs to be invented first; or the computing power required is prohibitively expensive. Carmack's skills and ability to absorb knowledge might help to spot such an opportunity.