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Re:John Carmack: I’m going to work on artificial general int... by catalogia on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @07:02PM (#21531233)
From what I understand, quantum effects being essential to the process is a fringe belief. Penrose is probably the most famous 'serious person' (sorry Deepak Chopra) to espouse the idea, but I'm inclined to believe that might be a Linus Pauling/Vitamin C sort of scenario. Penrose started from the perspective of believing there must be quantum effects, then began fishing for physical evidence of it.
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Re:John Carmack: I’m going to work on artificial general int... by whymauri on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @07:24PM (#21531400)
I was taught that the quantum theory of memory and cognition generally falls under Eric Schwartz's "neuro-bagging" fallacy [0]. That is:

>You assert that an area of physics or mathematics familiar to few neuroscientists solves a fundamental problem in their field. Example: "The cerebellum is a tensor of rank 10^12; sensory and motor activity is contravariant and covariant vectors".

So yeah, I feel that it's pretty fringe (as you suggested).

[0] https://web.archive.org/web/20170828092031/http://cns-web.bu...

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Re:John Carmack: I’m going to work on artificial general int... by hmmmhmmmhmmm on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @07:09PM (#21531294)
One interesting hypothesis, re: lithium isotopes in Posner molecules: https://www.kitp.ucsb.edu/sites/default/files/users/mpaf/p17...
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Re:John Carmack: I’m going to work on artificial general int... by AareyBaba on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @08:25PM (#21531862)
"The Secret of Scent" by Luca Turin [0] if I remember correctly goes into research that indicates that there may be quantum effects that explain how shape/chirality of molecules affect smell. [0] https://www.amazon.com/Secret-Scent-Adventures-Perfume-Scien...

So it is plausible that nature may have evolved to be affected by quantum effects.

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Re:John Carmack: I’m going to work on artificial general int... by pvarangot on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @08:06PM (#21531720)
Yeah, "quantum mechanics and cognition are very complex and therefore equivalent", sorry I don't know who to attribute the quote to.
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Re:John Carmack: I’m going to work on artificial general int... by pgcj_poster on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @09:31PM (#21532264)
I think you're recalling the end of this comic[1], which was on the front page of HN a couple weeks ago. So the quote is probably attributable to either Scott Aaronson or Zach Weinersmith.

[1] https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/the-talk-3

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Re:John Carmack: I’m going to work on artificial general int... by pvarangot on Thursday November 14, 2019 @03:34PM (#21539121)
Yes! Thanks
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