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Re:Google plans to partner with banks to offer checking acco... by xboxnolifes on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @11:13AM (#21525746)
> Now imaging your checking account also got disabled because some bot decided that you looked suspicious.

That's already how fraud protection works in the majority of banks.

Re:Google plans to partner with banks to offer checking acco... by kibwen on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @11:19AM (#21525826)
Far from the same.

A bank might suspend your checking account if it detects suspicious financial transactions on the account. The goal here is (ostensibly) to protect the account owner.

Google, as per the precedents it has repeatedly set, could suspend your checking account for participating in a stream on YouTube and following the streamer's instructions to spam chat with emotes in order to vote on his path through the game, as happened to Markiplier and his followers. That's far beyond what anyone should consider reasonable risk for being able to access their bank account.

Re:Google plans to partner with banks to offer checking acco... by cm2187 on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @02:52PM (#21528688)
The bank might suspend your card until you clear it up (and my bank is much lighter touch, granted after having blocked my card a dozen times), it doesn't close your account and lock you out of all your financial services.
Re:Google plans to partner with banks to offer checking acco... by arshbot on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @11:18AM (#21525817)
> That's already how fraud protection works in the majority of banks.

Yes, but what bank has the surface area of google? If I do something in a an area that has _literally nothing_ to do with banking ( say google stadia ) that a bot thinks is fishy - will I have all of my funds locked up over that mistake?

Re:Google plans to partner with banks to offer checking acco... by stefano on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @11:16AM (#21525790)
But your bank will have humans making sure it's not a false positive. With google, you can appeal so a bot can tell you that your appeal was rejected.
Re:Google plans to partner with banks to offer checking acco... by simion314 on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @11:17AM (#21525803)
The bank won't close your account if your child put an emojy on a youtube comment while using a tablet. The proper response is to block your YT account but Google forced merged your accounts.
Re:Google plans to partner with banks to offer checking acco... by cscurmudgeon on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @11:17AM (#21525801)
Really? We know banks use machine learning models too but can you really get suspended for a comment on a video site?

The surface area for misclassification is much larger in Google’s case as they close down the entire account without any mechanism for appeal.

Re:Google plans to partner with banks to offer checking acco... by notyourday on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @11:36AM (#21526022)
> That's already how fraud protection works in the majority of banks.

That's not the entire story. Not only do banks have tons of regulations that they have to follow, a concept of "algorithm determined that we shutdown the account and we can't explain to you why" does not exist there.

Re:Google plans to partner with banks to offer checking acco... by daveFNbuck on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @11:15AM (#21525777)
It's pretty easy to resolve that with the bank. Google has notoriously bad customer service for people whose accounts it disables.
Re:Google plans to partner with banks to offer checking acco... by parliament32 on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @12:34PM (#21526897)
But you can actually call your bank. It's not run by bots, like Google is.
Re:Google plans to partner with banks to offer checking acco... by JorgeGT on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @02:22PM (#21528322)
Not only that, I can physically walk into my bank and speak with an actual human being face to face.
Re:Google plans to partner with banks to offer checking acco... by mschuster91 on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @01:58PM (#21527968)
If a bank terminates you, you can sue at a court. With Google? Good luck trying to sue them, even if you are an EU citizen.
Re:Google plans to partner with banks to offer checking acco... by mehdix on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @02:18PM (#21528273)
Because of a nationality I hold, I often get some vague replies from financial institutes or online payment gateways when processing my transactions or credit that due to some "internal" or "unknown" reason their service is unavailable. That's mostly a workaround for EU anti-descrimination laws.
Re:Google plans to partner with banks to offer checking acco... by CapitalistCartr on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @11:15AM (#21525773)
With Google, there is no human recourse.