Re:Disney+ hit by technical glitches on launch day
by bryanlarsen on Tuesday November 12, 2019 @03:38PM
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Netflix's costs are higher for UHD streaming: storage, bandwidth, production, et cetera. What's scummy about it?
Re:Disney+ hit by technical glitches on launch day
by Qwertystop on Tuesday November 12, 2019 @04:54PM
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Storage and production costs for something available in UHD are the same regardless of whether someone streams a downscaled version. Storing multiple resolutions (assuming they do that rather than downscaling live from the stored highest-res or making the client do it) is where additional costs for more versions would show up.
Re:Disney+ hit by technical glitches on launch day
by pilsetnieks on Tuesday November 12, 2019 @07:05PM
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You need to store downscaled versions anyway for low-bandwidth clients. However, with UHD you also have to store the UHD version, in addition to all the small ones. You also need more storage not just in your own DCs but also in those cache boxes you have at every major ISP; then there's the peering costs for transmitting those UHD videos, etc.
Re:Disney+ hit by technical glitches on launch day
by baddox on Tuesday November 12, 2019 @03:53PM
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In my view, the "native" format that they produced the content in is the format they should be delivering by default (if supported by the viewer's setup). Of course I recognize that people will disagree, after all, UHD Blu-rays also generally cost more than 1080p Blu-rays. But of course, UHD Blu-rays aren't backwards compatible with standard Blu-ray equipment, so it doesn't feel like an artificial limitation simply for the purpose of price discrimination. This also seems to be a no-brainer for Amazon Prime, Apple TV+, and Disney+, which (as far as I can tell) don't have any concept of charging based on video/audio quality.
Re:Disney+ hit by technical glitches on launch day
by Mindwipe on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @07:41AM
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> This also seems to be a no-brainer for Amazon Prime, Apple TV+, and Disney+, which (as far as I can tell) don't have any concept of charging based on video/audio quality.
Almost every other video service globally does, and of those you mentioned Prime's pricing is mostly based on shipping, Apple TV+ at this point is effectively a PR campaign and not a proper service, and Disney+ is running at a massive loss leader to build share.
Netflix isn't charging a sustainable amount of money as it is. You should probably think of it less as charging more for UHD as offering a crazy discount for lower content quality.
Re:Disney+ hit by technical glitches on launch day
by duahncjak on Tuesday November 12, 2019 @05:19PM
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It’s common practice for the online video rentals (many different providers including Google and Amazon) to charge more for HD. In reality the marginal cost of providing digital content is almost zero, so there is never going to be “cost-plus” pricing. They are always going to charge whatever the market will bear. Price discrimination allows more value-conscious customers to get content at a lower price than they would otherwise.
Re:Disney+ hit by technical glitches on launch day
by triceratops on Tuesday November 12, 2019 @05:38PM
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They're offering better quality for a higher price. I don't understand why that's "scummy". It's the most honest way to price something.
You could just watch it in regular quality - it's not that bad. Either you feel UHD is worth the extra $3/month (honestly a pittance compared to the price of a UHD TV) or you do not.
But anyway, I only have one screen, so it's still the case that Netflix charges considerably more just to receive UHD content. As price discrimination goes, that's a pretty scummy way to do it. They've shot and produced this content in UHD, yet they give a much lower quality version to their base customers. I know they have every right to do that, and it might make business sense for them (since people with UHD TVs probably have more disposable income), but it has always felt scummy to me.