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A comment on The Bytecode Alliance: Building a secure, composable future for WebAssembly.

Re:The Bytecode Alliance: Building a secure, composable futu... by syrusakbary on Tuesday November 12, 2019 @01:28PM (#21516629)
First of all, congrats on forming the alliance!

> Imagine extensions for applications or databases, written in any language you want, with no ability to exfiltrate data

That's what we are working towards on Wasmer, the server side WebAssembly runtime - https://github.com/wasmerio/wasmer

In fact, we already have a lot of different language integrations (maintained by us and the community) and our software is the pioneer on the space.

Is there any reason on why you think is a good idea to do a side-alliance instead of collaborating with us and the community so users and developers can be the ultimate beneficiaries? (it's good, it just seems is not an alliance made for the users, which it's a bit weird from my perspective)

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Re:The Bytecode Alliance: Building a secure, composable futu... by npmccallum on Tuesday November 12, 2019 @02:01PM (#21516981)
Disclaimer: I'm from the Enarx project (https://enarx.io) which is associated with the BytecodeAlliance.

I think a good analogy is: wasmer is to qemu as BytecodeAlliance is to rust-vmm.

Wasmer is a general purpose WASM runtime. But BytecodeAlliance is a place to build tooling for the construction of runtimes (WASM or otherwise), including special purpose runtimes. I think there is a lot of space for both in the growing non-browser WASM market.

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Re:The Bytecode Alliance: Building a secure, composable futu... by syrusakbary on Tuesday November 12, 2019 @03:31PM (#21517827)
Agreed! (regarding the non-browser WASM market)

Not sure if I got the analogy, but all I can say is that I'm very excited about the Enarx initiative :)

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Re:The Bytecode Alliance: Building a secure, composable futu... by jedisct1 on Tuesday November 12, 2019 @05:31PM (#21518929)
How does Enarx differ from MesaTEE?
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Re:The Bytecode Alliance: Building a secure, composable futu... by baybal2 on Tuesday November 12, 2019 @04:33PM (#21518397)
> First of all, congrats on forming the alliance!

No Google on board, it means no Chrome support

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Re:The Bytecode Alliance: Building a secure, composable futu... by amaranth on Tuesday November 12, 2019 @04:51PM (#21518563)
What does Chrome have to do with a plugin for my image editor or a command line tool on my server?
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Re:The Bytecode Alliance: Building a secure, composable futu... by coldtea on Tuesday November 12, 2019 @05:23PM (#21518852)
Obviously it has with it controls the biggest OTHER use case for WebAssembly (the v8 runtime used in both the browser and Node) and thus can very much influence WebAssembly towards what they like (or slow it down adoption wise etc), even in areas not related with the web directly...
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