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Re:Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary by vbezhenar on Monday November 11, 2019 @07:54AM (#21504426)
They are not trying to kill advertisements. They want to replace API to provide better performance. That's about it. ad blocking extensions won't disappear. May be some will, and new extensions emerge.
Re:Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary by pritambaral on Monday November 11, 2019 @08:49AM (#21504781)
> They want to replace API to provide better performance.

The replacement API is incompatible with what it is replacing. The supposed gain in performance is not without loss in ability to block ads.

> ad blocking extensions won't disappear. May be some will, and new extensions emerge.

Some kinds of ad-blocking is simply impossible in the new API, without replacement or workaround. No extension can implement those methods.

Re:Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary by blep-arsh on Monday November 11, 2019 @08:11AM (#21504530)
Incidentally these new declarative rulesets are useless against some very simple tricks. I know people who are working full time on defeating ad blockers and the new Manifest v3 seems to have made their lives so much easier.
Re:Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary by blibble on Monday November 11, 2019 @09:07AM (#21504887)
this change is intended to move control over the blocking process from the extension author to Google

once they're in total control of how the blockers can operate: I doubt they'll be responsive to what the developers of the blocking extensions want...

Re:Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary by kiwicopple on Monday November 11, 2019 @09:37AM (#21505121)
If performance was the criteria by which they made decisions then they would probably bake ad-blocking directly into chrome, since ads/tracking is one of the leading reasons for poor performance
Re:Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary by bildung on Monday November 11, 2019 @09:38AM (#21505131)
By that reasoning Microsoft didn't prevent others from writing .doc-compatible word processors either - they just defined the format as basically a memory dump of Word :)

This is how a company implements measures that could be a legal problem: By formally making a technical decision and having the actual goal as a by-product of that decision.

Re:Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary by p_l on Monday November 11, 2019 @04:38PM (#21509180)
> By that reasoning Microsoft didn't prevent others from writing .doc-compatible word processors either - they just defined the format as basically a memory dump of Word :)

It's funny because for years MS kept officially supported, feature complete, portable format for use in interchange, while DOC being shared was kinda unintended consequence that just wasn't fought against.

The very requirements of the original DOC spec required it to be a memory dump.

Re:Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary by megous on Monday November 11, 2019 @09:29AM (#21505068)
They didn't need to replace the current API, adding a new API would have sufficed. If it was truly better, the major addons would have transitioned it voluntarily. No need to force it.
Re:Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary by JohnFen on Monday November 11, 2019 @01:02PM (#21507059)
> They are not trying to kill advertisements. They want to replace API to provide better performance.

So they say. I see literally no reason to believe that claim, though.

Re:Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary by vbezhenar on Monday November 11, 2019 @02:03PM (#21507755)
Apple did similar move with Safari. And they are not ad company. So probably it is the valid reason.
Re:Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary by JohnFen on Monday November 11, 2019 @02:15PM (#21507877)
Apple has a bit more credibility than Google, too.
Re:Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary by tragicpapercut on Monday November 11, 2019 @09:16AM (#21504953)
They are killing the functionality that has supported robust adblocking for a long, long time. Any extensions that replace the current model will be less effective.