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Re:Aliens in the valley: The complete and chaotic history of... by dmix on Saturday November 09, 2019 @08:29PM (#21495785)
> Mods take a more hands off approach. And users kinda moderate each other with upvotes/downvotes.

This is what originally made Reddit awesome but the reversal of which has been slowly killing the fun. Mods have hijacked Reddit and turned all of the popular subreddits into their own pet newspapers which they are the chief editors/owner and only they themselves decide which content the users will enjoy.

You basically can't post any comment or post which doesn't fit with the popular opinions/ideology/etc of the sub without getting banned or rejected from most subreddits these days.

That was entirely unsurprising, especially these days, when it happened on the various shamelessly partisan political subreddits. But about two or three years ago I saw it start spreading into other areas like city/country subreddits or generic news subreddits. Now it's on all the major subreddits and based on the moderator newsletters and other admin posts the whole hyper-involved and super careful power-modding approach seems to be encouraged by the Reddit admins.

Re:Aliens in the valley: The complete and chaotic history of... by Scapeghost on Saturday November 09, 2019 @08:44PM (#21495853)
> This is what originally made Reddit awesome but the reversal of which has been slowly killing the fun. Mods have hijacked Reddit and turned all of the popular subreddits into their own pet newspapers which they are the chief editors/owner and only they themselves decide which content the users will enjoy.

That is true and I hate it.

A handful of people should never get to decide what millions can talk about.

But compared to oldschool forums, at least they don't butt into conversations too often and make things awkward.

It's definitely time for the Fourth Age (counting NNTP as the first), that combines the best things about oldschool forums with the best things about Reddit.

Re:Aliens in the valley: The complete and chaotic history of... by dmix on Saturday November 09, 2019 @11:23PM (#21496393)
> It's definitely time for the Fourth Age

Agreed, do you have an ideas which would help push us forward?... this is clearly a step backwards, pushing us back towards the super-safe bigco communications world like 5-oclock TV news shows with pre-approved talking points.

Obviously developing new Reddit and Twitter alternatives that look like 2000s-era PHP shitholes aren't helping the problem.... or worse clones which merely pander to political extremists on the right or left or fringe groups which then scares off the moderates or politically disinterested.

Re:Aliens in the valley: The complete and chaotic history of... by Scapeghost on Wednesday November 20, 2019 @06:06PM (#21589595)
> Agreed, do you have an ideas which would help push us forward?

I do, as I'm sure most of us do (have ideas).

But even if I manage to make an objectively better alternative, I can't guarantee that I won't become one of those mods :)

Re:Aliens in the valley: The complete and chaotic history of... by varrock on Sunday November 10, 2019 @01:09AM (#21496682)
A recent post I made to a music community got removed because it was on the "do not post" songs list. I couldn't believe what I was reading. A music community that doesn't allow the users to post specific songs.
Re:Aliens in the valley: The complete and chaotic history of... by angry_octet on Sunday November 10, 2019 @02:48PM (#21499772)
Sometimes topics have been done to death and you don't want to talk about it any more. Repeatedly having newcomers reintroducing a topic is quite grating, and often leads to long time community members ceasing to enjoy it. Like teenagers playing stairway to heaven in the guitar shop.

Also, can you share the specific song or banned list?

Re:Aliens in the valley: The complete and chaotic history of... by api on Saturday November 09, 2019 @10:32PM (#21496226)
Political reddits are the worst. I am not aware of a single one that isn't a pure circle jerk. The libertarian one used to be this weird melting pot where you even had the odd Marxist or whatever engaging in actual intelligent discussion with Rothbardians and Randians and anarchists, but then it got taken over by pajama nazis.

Some of the smaller topical subreddits about science, space, and niche areas of tech and engineering are good. The further from politics the better it is.

Re:Aliens in the valley: The complete and chaotic history of... by friendlybus on Sunday November 10, 2019 @07:32AM (#21497733)
The Jordan Peterson sub whilst not supposed to be political was good for thoughtful discussion about myth/philosophy/psychology ect for 2017-2018 and is now just political memes. They maintain an open policy at all times, not banning anyone or shutting down posters and as a result there is constant calls for more heavy moderating.

The redditors themselves want the authoritarian hand waved over the subs, because a lot of the time good quality content does not aggregate on reddit. I started an account here looking for the good stuff, hopefully thinkspot or something else will fill in the quality discussion blank on the web atm.

Re:Aliens in the valley: The complete and chaotic history of... by buboard on Sunday November 10, 2019 @09:07AM (#21497989)
It s impossible to have a meaningful discussion with millions of subscribers. Seek smaller moderated subs.