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Re:Apple has made it difficult to use web-based technology o... by st3fan on Friday November 08, 2019 @05:41PM (#21487691)
I think every single platform is struggling with this. Even Electron or Chromium itself. They all have internal or private APIs or things that are not ready for prime time or just plain internal details.

Opening up private APIs is a commitment that you will support those. Which is no light decision.

Personally I think it is fine for any platform to have these.

But I do wish that the App Store rules around them were more permissive.

From Apples perspective: look at all the shit they are getting for dropping 64-bit support. This was known for a decade and they still are pictured as the bad guys who don’t support developers. A decade!

So you can imagine what happens when apps relying on private APIs suddenly break.

Re:Apple has made it difficult to use web-based technology o... by madeofpalk on Friday November 08, 2019 @06:47PM (#21488190)
To be fair, Apple struggles with maintaining their existing APIs. Who cares about the private ones, they probably break or change just as unexpectedly as the public ones.
Re:Apple has made it difficult to use web-based technology o... by lonelappde on Friday November 08, 2019 @07:04PM (#21488343)
False equivalency. Changing private APIs without warning is not the same as actively breaking clients.

You know all the talk about Google or Facebook or Comcast both owning the platform and competing on the content layer with self-dealing is anti-competitive monopolistic behavior? Same goes for Microsoft Windows in the 1990s (actually litigated these very issues) and Apple today.

Re:Apple has made it difficult to use web-based technology o... by chongli on Friday November 08, 2019 @07:21PM (#21488458)
False equivalency. Changing private APIs without warning is not the same as actively breaking clients.

This distinction does not matter in the public sphere. When Apple releases an update — any update — that breaks a popular app, they are blamed for it. By putting their foot down, Apple is putting the onus back on developers to play by their rules.

This situation is essentially the normalization of deviance [1]. If you do not enforce a rule, that rule becomes invalid and unenforceable. Apple does not want to lose control of their platform. If they give away all of their private, low level APIs, then cross platform frameworks like Electron will render their platform a commodity.

[1] http://danluu.com/wat/

Re:Apple has made it difficult to use web-based technology o... by wyxuan on Friday November 08, 2019 @07:47PM (#21488612)
Do you mean 32 bit support instead?