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Re:Uber’s self-driving car could not detect pedestrians outs... by gambiting on Thursday November 07, 2019 @05:47AM (#21472082)
>>The important bit is that it notices that the obstacle is moving out to the road and should stop it

The problem here is that if I'm doing 70mph+ on the motorway and I see a plastic bag flying in my path, the correct course of action isn't to brake hard or panically try to avoid it - but a computer cannot tell a difference between a soft plastic bag and something more rigid. If the only classifier is that "there's an object in my way, I need to stop" then that's also super dangerous. In fact, there are cases where unfortunately the correct course of action is to keep going straight and hit the object - any kind of small animal you shouldn't try to avoid, especially at higher speeds - yes they will wreck your car, but a panicked pull to the left or right can actually kill you. As a human you should do this instinctively - another human = avoid at all cost, small animal = brake hard but keep going straight, plastic bags = don't brake, don't move, keep going straight. How do you teach that to a machine if the machine can't reliably tell what it's looking at?

Re:Uber’s self-driving car could not detect pedestrians outs... by simion314 on Thursday November 07, 2019 @01:41PM (#21475986)
My conclusion is that until you have hardware and software to classify objects as well a human you don't even consider testing on public roads. I can't understand the optimism that with such bad hardware and software but with tons of training it will magically get better then a human, Also we need some tests before we let anyone put his self driving car on the streets, should I be able to hack my car and npm install self driving and then test on your street ?
Re:Uber’s self-driving car could not detect pedestrians outs... by a_t48 on Thursday November 07, 2019 @02:51PM (#21476663)
I don't have a great answer to that - I don't know Uber's capabilities and I can't really speak to my previous company's capabilities either. Sorry!

Edit: I will say that "size and relative speed of the object" is an excellent start, though.