News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Former Twitter Employees Charged with Spying for Saudi Ar... by dredmorbius on Wednesday November 06, 2019 @11:58PM (#21470537)
Through contacts I've heard stories of practices at a wide range of establishments over the past 25-30 years. Practices have almost always severely lagged advice, and though specific leading firms or organisations might have strong data hygiene policies and practices, a great many other organisations do not.

Through roughly 2000, the principle saving grace was that disk storage was so expensive, and networking so slow, that large quantities of data were unlikely to be found online except in the case of very major organisations. Most financial firms would read data from tape for analysis or marketing programmes, as an example. A major credit card network might have a couple of, say, Sun Starfire class servers onto which a comprehensive union cardholder databset might be assembled and accessed. One friend reported accessing their campus workstation to which a large national medical insurance database was being processed, from the New York Public Library over Telnet (though I believe they didn't actually log in, they did receive the prompt). E-commerce software vendors and systems stored credit card information, which was accessed. Numerous services and datasets fly around all kinds of organisations, with little protection, and were transmitted in unencrypted FTP sessions. Social networks in which NOC addresses were directly accessible from the office network (WiFi access, natch), with millions of members' data directly accessible.

There are many ways to get this wrong. Few to get it right. And most organisations lack the staff, capitalisation, or incentives to do the right thing.

Google are problably among the best. That leaves open the question of how good they are, and what their past practices have been, even in relatively recent years.

Or how they might behave should their advertising monopoly and revenues fail.

Re:Former Twitter Employees Charged with Spying for Saudi Ar... by johnpowell on Thursday November 07, 2019 @12:43AM (#21470756)
My first year at a community college I was doing work study that was part of my FAFSA. I was late getting in there and I had limited options, one was working in the cafeteria, the other was working for the very job placement center that was tasked with finding me a work study job.

I got very lucky here. The work study job in the job placement center was turning job listings that were faxed in into html to post on our fresh new website. Nobody at the time new what HTML was.

A few years earlier I had bought a "Learn HTML in 24 hours book" and I made a Tony Hawk Pro Skater webpage that listed all the special moves. I used a lot if iframes and thought it was pretty good. CSS wasn't really a thing back then. iframes and tables got the job done.

But I got the job and they thought they got very lucky. I worked in this back room with a computer and a fax machine. Jobs listings would be faxed in. I would scan them and let the OCR software try, and then I would clean it up and add some <h> and <b> tags and then do my econ homework for the rest of my shift.

But as the digital stuff become more popular they hired another guy to be in the back room with me. Dude was a bit of a creep and a student came in looking for a part time job that would work around her classes. He kept on going on about how hot she was. A few weeks later he was talking about he signed up for a few of the classes the hot girl was taking.

Every single student record was available on our computers. Names, address, phone numbers, class schedule, SSN, FAFSA data. It was madness.

And I was a lowly fax to html guy.