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Re:How to Steal a Billion by Consultant32452 on Wednesday November 06, 2019 @01:26PM (#21465388)
Let's imagine the US govt takes 10% of the shares of Amazon. These are non-voting shares. Amazon doesn't pay a dividend as far as I know, so what is the point? The government doesn't have control over the company, the government doesn't get any revenue. The government can't sell the shares because then it just has to come confiscate 10% more shares from Amazon.

How do I, as a regular citizen, benefit from this? Is there some mechanism I'm not seeing? Because it feels like it's just a meaningless paper transfer.

Re:How to Steal a Billion by oblio on Wednesday November 06, 2019 @05:55PM (#21468490)
Amazon won't pay dividends for a while. A country lasts centuries.

Secondly, that's why I was also thinking of a variant where employees get shares, too.

Re:How to Steal a Billion by Consultant32452 on Wednesday November 06, 2019 @06:09PM (#21468591)
What is the difference between Amazon giving me, an imaginary Amazon employee, $100 in cash vs $100 in stock? Amazon is a publicly traded company, so any employee can choose to buy stock. Is the idea to force the employees to hold the stock without being allowed to sell it? If they can't sell it, what value do they get from it?

As an investment strategy, I never hold stock in a company I'm working for. That puts too many eggs in one basket. If the company fails for some reason, not only have I lost my job but I've also lost my retirement savings. I would personally oppose being compensated in company stock and would sell it ASAP if given the option.

Re:How to Steal a Billion by oblio on Thursday November 07, 2019 @03:38AM (#21471501)
Dividends, influence (the employee shares would have voting rights).

I'm not saying it's the best option or something I studied deeply, but we need something better.

Otherwise, with automation, we're back to feudalism.