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Re:Microsoft’s web-based version of Visual Studio by paulcarroty on Wednesday November 06, 2019 @11:27AM (#21464106)
> couldn't run away from Ms/Windows environment fast enough.

My condolences about living with

* spending ~20% of traffic for telemetry

* bloatware/low quality updates

* unexpected reboots after system upgrade

* non-removable Sugar Bob game in Windows Pro(!) edition

Sorry, but all this crap doesn't makes MS "good" in any sense.

Re:Microsoft’s web-based version of Visual Studio by wayneftw on Wednesday November 06, 2019 @11:51AM (#21464329)
I have much longer lists of issues for Mac, Linux, Android, iOS and Chrome but I still use all of them because the benefits outweigh the problems.

What platform is perfect?

Re:Microsoft’s web-based version of Visual Studio by zeppelin101 on Wednesday November 06, 2019 @11:55AM (#21464375)
Exactly my sentiments. Every time I use a different OS - any of those that you mentioned - I find tons of things to complain about that Windows does not suffer from. At the end of the day, most of these operating systems are awesome. But they each have different strengths and weaknesses.
Re:Microsoft’s web-based version of Visual Studio by cptskippy on Wednesday November 06, 2019 @01:17PM (#21465263)
> spending ~20% of traffic for telemetry

Maybe don't lie if you want to be taken seriously?

I've got 6 different Windows 10 machines active on my home network at any given time and I'm blocking Microsoft Telemetry via Pi-Hole. Microsoft Telemetry doesn't even account for 20% of the blocked traffic.

Pi-Hole is blocking about 10% of traffic overall.

Re:Microsoft’s web-based version of Visual Studio by stinos on Wednesday November 06, 2019 @11:58AM (#21464417)
A couple of cherry picked examples also don't make them "bad" though. Not sure how cherry picked they are, but I seem to be able to counter all those points just from experiences on the machine I'm typing this on; 20% is easy if there's hardly any traffic, isn't it? No seriously, where does this come from? I've never seen this Sugar Bob thing you talk about, and it's also not on my machine currently. All in all, I don't see many of these and similar things people complain about. Any idea why? The reboots aren't exactly unexpected, are they? And I haven't had updates break things for me either so unsure about the quality. I have seen them fix things though.

Then again, which OS is much better on all fronts? Still have to see it, and I tried/use a lot of them.

Re:Microsoft’s web-based version of Visual Studio by jotm on Wednesday November 06, 2019 @11:37AM (#21464187)
The updates are a bit ridiculous. I did a clean install, and like I used to do before, I installed all updates right away so I can take my mind off it for a while. But no, Windows 10 kept finding restart-worthy updates for a week. Seems to have stopped now. Is that normal?

Telemetry can be blocked through a firewall.

Re:Microsoft’s web-based version of Visual Studio by zeppelin101 on Wednesday November 06, 2019 @11:58AM (#21464416)
That might be a decent approach. I went with blocking some Windows 10 functionality via the hosts file. Many months later, I wanted to download the new Windows Terminal from the Microsoft store and I just could not figure out why the MS store wasn't working properly. After hours and hours I vaguely remembered messing with the hosts file (probably via a Powershell script). I opened it and the evidence was plain to see. I removed all the non-default entries and MS store was working again. But I saw so many people suffering from the same problem on online forums. Really makes you think as to how many people ran some questionable script, made no backups, and had to reinstall the OS because they didn't know how to revert the changes.
Re:Microsoft’s web-based version of Visual Studio by blahyawnblah on Wednesday November 06, 2019 @11:59AM (#21464429)
Do you have a source for the 20% claim?

In fairness the reboots after updates is kind of expected these days. I'm always surprised when I don't have to reboot.

I don't have a Sugar Bob game on my pro edition.

Re:Microsoft’s web-based version of Visual Studio by cptskippy on Wednesday November 06, 2019 @01:10PM (#21465180)
> I don't have a Sugar Bob game on my pro edition.

I don't even know what that is.

Re:Microsoft’s web-based version of Visual Studio by joshuaissac on Friday November 08, 2019 @04:52AM (#21481013)
Candy Crush Saga, a game Windows 10 Home used to bundle with major upgrades.