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Re:The Windows Update Marathon in a VM: From Windows 1.01 to XP by scarface74 on Tuesday November 05, 2019 @09:26AM (#21452593)
And it’s hurt Microsoft by making it impossible to ship operating systems that are not years late, with promised features removed and they haven’t been able to move beyond the desktop - which has become increasingly less relevant over the decade.

They are now at a point where they have to base their browser on a rival’s engine, their developing a mobile device based on Android and their own cloud platform hosts fewer Windows instances than Linux instances.

Re:The Windows Update Marathon in a VM: From Windows 1.01 to XP by toast0 on Tuesday November 05, 2019 @04:05PM (#21456694)
Their attempt to modernise their phone platform involved several rounds of effectively throwing away the existing library of developed software. If anything, that shows the value of backwards compatibility.

Google supposedly didn't support windows phone, in part, because they were upset that they couldn't use the wince apps as a base.

IE's backwards compat method was to simply embed the old version of the engine, and use it as necessary. That's not really a factor in the many reasons people mostly use IE to download a better browser for personal browsing, but is a major factor in why it was the corporate browser of choice for decades: it is expected to be able to continue to work the same way on a long term basis.

Windows vs Linux usage rates on servers is mostly a statement of Linux is at least good enough, and a good enough solution with simpler (no) paid licensing is a clear win for ease of use. I haven't seen any Linux vs Windows server performance benchmarks in a long time; I'm assuming they're not that far apart, outside of whatever bits and pieces that either platform is truly bad at.

Re:The Windows Update Marathon in a VM: From Windows 1.01 to XP by scarface74 on Tuesday November 05, 2019 @05:04PM (#21457238)
Google supposedly didn't support windows phone, in part, because they were upset that they couldn't use the wince apps as a base.

I was a WinCE developer - both .Net and MFC. Trust me, no one wanted to use WinCE for anything. Besides, MS abandoned WinCE with VS 2010.

I can’t speak for performance, but the resource requirements for Windows is huge compared to Linux and that really makes a difference in cloud environments when it comes to price (even excluding licensing cost) and startup time - that makes a difference when you need elasticity and to scale up and down fast.

You can do a lot with a 128MB/.25 vCPU Linux instance. You can barely get away with a 4GB RAM Windows instance with 1 vCPU.

Re:The Windows Update Marathon in a VM: From Windows 1.01 to XP by toast0 on Tuesday November 05, 2019 @11:56PM (#21459821)
> Trust me, no one wanted to use WinCE for anything.

Well, maybe nobody wanted to, but to support a new platform with unknown uptake, would you rather use your existing code, write something new on a less capable api[1], or just walk away?

[1] well, a lot of wince stuff was still there on wp7, if you were willing to do terrible things in order to get available features that weren't exposed.

Re:The Windows Update Marathon in a VM: From Windows 1.01 to XP by sz4kerto on Tuesday November 05, 2019 @10:01AM (#21452931)
And they have made hundreds of billions of dollars. Surviving forever is not the only possible goal for a company: if you have a company that makes 100 dollars then it goes bankrupt then that's likely better than a company making steady 1 dollar a year.
Re:The Windows Update Marathon in a VM: From Windows 1.01 to XP by scarface74 on Tuesday November 05, 2019 @10:46AM (#21453376)
And Microsoft is only seeing a resurgence by basically marginalizing Windows. I didn’t argue that MS isn’t successful but that Windows has lost importance in the modern tech industry.
Re:The Windows Update Marathon in a VM: From Windows 1.01 to XP by UserIsUnused on Tuesday November 05, 2019 @10:58AM (#21453496)
Microsoft is about Microsoft, not Windows. While windows is loosing relevance, my Microsoft stock keeps on getting more valued. Dividends also keep coming and growing.
Re:The Windows Update Marathon in a VM: From Windows 1.01 to XP by scarface74 on Tuesday November 05, 2019 @01:38PM (#21455259)
In the Gates/Ballmer era MS was definitely about Windows. They even withheld Office from iOS even though they had it ready during the Ballmer era to prop up Windows.