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Re:Separating gifted children hasn't led to better achievement by eloff on Monday November 04, 2019 @10:51PM (#21449442)
But would bring other problems. The cure is likely worse than the disease.
Re:Separating gifted children hasn't led to better achievement by yters on Monday November 04, 2019 @11:39PM (#21449654)
Most of history? I'd argue three Rs is the basics everyone needs, and then they can find their own way.
Re:Separating gifted children hasn't led to better achievement by Nasrudith on Tuesday November 05, 2019 @08:12AM (#21452015)
Most of history was a very different place before advancements outright snapped assumptions in half. Before most of the population was farm laborers and societal hierarchical complexity and knowledge was limited by this.

Industrialization was raising pollution and standards of living and making it clear that a lack of education wasn't a healthy option - although partially driven by wrong reasons - paranoid anticatholicism that ignores basically all of European history of how much influence the church /actually/ has over secular power.

Even post WW2 industrialization the population was still at a high school diploma as an actual advantage but "optional".

We need more informed not less. Problematically the populace also needs more critical thinking and self guidance while there are many unhealthy attitudes towards learning.

Re:Separating gifted children hasn't led to better achievement by yters on Tuesday November 05, 2019 @10:47AM (#21453391)
Why do you believe public schooling improves critical thinking?
Re:Separating gifted children hasn't led to better achievement by Nasrudith on Wednesday November 06, 2019 @07:50AM (#21461958)
Compared to nothing on those who try to fill the void? Hell yes. Look at those raised in literal cults for example or among fundamentalists. Now I know these are tripping hazards for ants low goal posts but for once "it could be worse" is pertinent. An education can provide the prerequisites to evaluate and enable it.

Often they do try to put their bullshit in it but their hamhandedness in practice often backfires by adolescence - especially with their own twisted priorities and misrule related discontent.

Re:Separating gifted children hasn't led to better achievement by yters on Wednesday November 06, 2019 @10:44AM (#21463616)
Yes, it can help, but do you think public school can provide its own 'cult'?
Re:Separating gifted children hasn't led to better achievement by eloff on Tuesday November 05, 2019 @12:06AM (#21449792)
If you look at the opportunities and statistics for high school dropouts, it makes a compelling case to the contrary.

And I argue this as an education system skeptic and college dropout myself.

Re:Separating gifted children hasn't led to better achievement by empthought on Tuesday November 05, 2019 @01:47AM (#21450254)
Presumably most people who “find their own way” would not drop out of high school, and their experience would be better — because there would be no one present who was only attending because the law mandates that they do so.
Re:Separating gifted children hasn't led to better achievement by Merrill on Tuesday November 05, 2019 @08:31AM (#21452182)
Reading and writing are unnecessary for much of the population given the progress in speech to text and text to speech algorithms. We can go straight to learning how to express ideas in speech and learning how to locate, access and understand information.

And calculators have rendered arithmetic unnecessary for some time. The focus should be on how to use calculation for financial and technical purposes.

Re:Separating gifted children hasn't led to better achievement by yters on Tuesday November 05, 2019 @10:47AM (#21453378)
I wonder if inability to do mental math explains the enormous debt people have these days...
Re:Separating gifted children hasn't led to better achievement by varjag on Tuesday November 05, 2019 @03:50AM (#21450737)
Most of history was pretty bad.
Re:Separating gifted children hasn't led to better achievement by yters on Tuesday November 05, 2019 @10:06PM (#21459392)
On what do you base that claim? Some say other periods and places were much more idyllic than our current state.
Re:Separating gifted children hasn't led to better achievement by varjag on Thursday November 07, 2019 @09:31AM (#21473473)
I had a history class in school? No period sticks out even remotely comparable to modernity by any metric: violent deaths per capita, general life expectancy, education, leisure time available..
Re:Separating gifted children hasn't led to better achievement by yters on Saturday November 09, 2019 @11:58PM (#21496471)
If some future historian were to look at the 20th century he would observe a huge amount of violence and death dwarfing anything that came before. I am not certain the modern age is altogether superior.