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Re:U of Chicago projected to be the first U.S. university to... by fzeroracer on Monday November 04, 2019 @05:14PM (#21447131)
Teachers generate less value (see:income, GDP) than engineers.

We should abolish teaching degrees and just teach software engineering at college.

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Re:U of Chicago projected to be the first U.S. university to... by aianus on Monday November 04, 2019 @05:35PM (#21447373)
We probably should. I bet it's easier to teach a STEM grad how to teach (in a professional training program after college) than to teach a professional 'teacher' how to do math.
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Re:U of Chicago projected to be the first U.S. university to... by jklein11 on Monday November 04, 2019 @08:44PM (#21448827)
What are you basing that on?

My sister is a 3rd-grade teacher and I'm not sure I would be equipped to handle 30 children without lots of training. Teaching someone how to teach 3rd-grade math is not that difficult. Teaching someone to start building positive learning habits with 8-9-year-olds sounds incredibly complicated.

I might be reading into your post too much but it seems like you think STEM grads are superior to non-stem grads. I don't buy that. STEM grads have a specialty that is in demand in the labor market. It doesn't make STEM grads better then non-STEM grads.

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Re:U of Chicago projected to be the first U.S. university to... by aianus on Monday November 04, 2019 @11:38PM (#21449650)
You may be right about elementary school teachers, I'm thinking more about high school STEM teachers specifically. Although the grade school teachers in my city seem to struggle even with fractions [0].

Only one of my high school math teachers seemed to have any idea what math was about (not just regurgitating formulas, but deriving them and proving them from a set of axioms and only then using those formulas to solve free-form real-world problems).

My High School CS teacher was a geography teacher who just read one chapter ahead in the CS textbook and had no idea what he was talking about.

Being good at teaching seems kind of useless when you don't know anything to teach.

[0] https://www.thestar.com/yourtoronto/education/2016/05/13/for...

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Re:U of Chicago projected to be the first U.S. university to... by ummonk on Tuesday November 05, 2019 @11:59AM (#21454198)
Well, the real question is marginal value - if we taught more software engineers, they might not bring in much income or create much GDP.

If you're asserting that teachers are as valuable as software engineers to society, then the question becomes: why doesn't society compensate them accordingly?

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Re:U of Chicago projected to be the first U.S. university to... by virmundi on Monday November 04, 2019 @05:25PM (#21447254)
Given the hard core attempt to subvert eduction going on in the public schools, maybe. At least with software you’ll have logic, math, and history. https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/dqd6ca/activist...

You should take a moment and read that individuals post. It is well researched. Just because it’s from r/conspiracy doesn’t mean you should skip it.

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